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Private Cloud Compute: A new frontier for AI privacy in the cloud

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Re: Private Cloud Compute: A new frontier for AI privacy in the cloud

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What I'm most curious about here is if a state actor comes to Apple with a subpoena and compels them to release information on an individual, what would Apple be able to release? ... I suppose this is ultimately a question that will be tested sooner or later in the US.

Unless their statements regarding the design of these systems are blatantly false, or they are forced to add data collectors on purpose to target individuals, the answer is close to nothing.

You can opt into full E2E encryption [1] which makes it nothing, presumably at the cost of some convenience features.

[1] https://support.apple.com/en-us/108756

Re: Private Cloud Compute: A new frontier for AI privacy in the cloud

#46

What I'm most curious about here is if a state actor comes to Apple with a subpoena and compels them to release information on an individual, what would Apple be able to release? ... I suppose this is ultimately a question that will be tested sooner or later in the US.

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Re: Private Cloud Compute: A new frontier for AI privacy in the cloud

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What I'm most curious about here is if a state actor comes to Apple with a subpoena and compels them to release information on an individual, what would Apple be able to release? ... I suppose this is ultimately a question that will be tested sooner or later in the US.

I mean it was famously tested in 2015 after the San Bernardino attack. Apple didn’t back down [1] and later sued the company who sold the zero-day to the govt to unlock the phone [2].

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple%E2%80%93FBI_encryption...

[2] https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/04/14/azimuth...

Re: Private Cloud Compute: A new frontier for AI privacy in the cloud

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I have a big question here. Who is this for? Dont get me wrong I think it's a great effort. This is some A+ nerd stuff right here. It's speaking my languge. But Im just going to figure out how to turn off "calls home". Cause I dont want it doing this at all. Is this speaking to me so I tell others "apple is the most secure option"? I don't want to tell others "linux" because I don't want to do tech support for that.…

What if you can't turn it off and this extreme security is the justification for why?

Re: Private Cloud Compute: A new frontier for AI privacy in the cloud

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> The Secure Enclave randomizes the data volume’s encryption keys on every reboot and does not persist these random keys, ensuring that data written to the data volume cannot be retained across reboot. In other words, there is an enforceable guarantee that the data volume is cryptographically erased every time the PCC node’s Secure Enclave Processor reboots.
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