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i dont understand why everyone is so confused and outraged. first off, it doesnt affect you. even if you do buy a microsoft laptop that is being marketed as the "ai powered technology revolotion" (or whatever), its shipping from the start with almost all the tools i can think of to help you only recall what you want. application exclusion by ifn, pause the stored data / purge stored data / or opt out forever. if you…
Its presence on every PC will enable and normalise hitherto unseen levels of surveillance and control over employees.
It ain't a good thing.
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where did you hear that? > Snapshots are encrypted by Device Encryption or BitLocker, which are enabled by default on Windows 11. Recall doesn't share snapshots with other users that are signed into Windows on the same device. Microsoft can't access or view the snapshots. You can delete your snapshots at any time by going to Settings > Privacy & security > Recall & snapshots on your PC. source: https://support.micros…
> Microsoft can't access or view the snapshots. And yet.. > Q. So how does it work? > A. Every few seconds, screenshots are taken. These are automatically OCR’d by Azure AI, running on your device, and written into an SQLite database in the user’s folder. Heads up, Microsoft runs azure. They likely get it before the local users database does.
by saying this, you are also claiming microsoft has windows 11 backdoored.
and thanks for the heads up, thats news to me.
The whole drama around with how Recall store data is misguided. The problem is not how this data is stored, it is more fundamental i.e how windows doesn't have a proper app sand boxing. MS App store apps have sandboxing and permission model but most of other apps on windows are still just bunch of DLLs and EXEs that run with all the permissions that the current user have. Until MS solves this problem there is no way…
Then again, no one who needs an actually useful computer runs Windows in S mode.
I have a different take on this. If the same feature were built on Android or iPhone, the data would be encrypted, and the researchers would have had a hard time accessing the SQLite file itself. Microsoft's takeaway from this negative news would be that it needs to lock down Windows 12 by adopting designs from Android and iPhone, effectively closing it off.
Working at a company in the healthcare space, this raises so many HIPPA compliance questions for our customers it's hilarious. And by hilarious, I mean bad. Screenshots of PHI? Sweet as, just chuck them in an SQLite DB, no worries there.
why am i having to defend microsoft? have we all lost our minds? or do we just shoot first, ask questions later for the lulz
The whole drama around with how Recall store data is misguided. The problem is not how this data is stored, it is more fundamental i.e how windows doesn't have a proper app sand boxing. MS App store apps have sandboxing and permission model but most of other apps on windows are still just bunch of DLLs and EXEs that run with all the permissions that the current user have. Until MS solves this problem there is no way…
The whole drama around with how Recall store data is misguided. The problem is not how this data is stored, it is more fundamental i.e how windows doesn't have a proper app sand boxing. MS App store apps have sandboxing and permission model but most of other apps on windows are still just bunch of DLLs and EXEs that run with all the permissions that the current user have. Until MS solves this problem there is no way…
As a user and programmer - good. Sandboxing is what is ruining modern software. I want to be able to reach into my file system with software. I want software to be able to integrate with other software even if those programs don't have APIs or weren't designed for integration. I want to be able to easily install mods for games. Most of all I don't want to manage annoying permissions screens and popups for every non t…
As a user I'm not realistically going to audit every new line of code in a piece of software with every update (if I even can) and I do not at all like the current model where we have to trust software creators blindly. It's the reason anti-virus/malware software is necessary on Windows.
As a developer I would much rather that users don't have to trust us blindly, "this app only needs an internet connection and access to this one directory" would be a far easier sell than the current scenario.
Popups, in the Windows UAC sense, yes, those are utter shit and train users to automatically give permission. Giving specific permissions once, more like Android, is much better.
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Some excerpts from https://doublepulsar.com/recall-stealing-everything-youve-ev... : ---------- Q. So how does it work? A. Every few seconds, screenshots are taken. These are automatically OCR’d by Azure AI, running on your device, and written into an SQLite database in the user’s folder. This database file has a record of everything you’ve ever viewed on your PC in plain text. OCR is a process of looking an image, a…
so official microsoft documentation vs infosec twitter. that's not how you back up an argument with proof. there are no microsoft engineers in that video. i see a laptop. is that from tiktok? how are you taking this guy's word for shit without even thinking? its like 13 seconds taken out of context showing a folder click and authorization (what's even happening here, is this an admin account?)
Hint: it’s usually not by the companies that shipped them.
i dont understand why everyone is so confused and outraged. first off, it doesnt affect you. even if you do buy a microsoft laptop that is being marketed as the "ai powered technology revolotion" (or whatever), its shipping from the start with almost all the tools i can think of to help you only recall what you want. application exclusion by ifn, pause the stored data / purge stored data / or opt out forever. if you…
To think it’s purely money is utterly naive. It’s surveillance tech for the NSA which ALSO makes Microsoft a packet.