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Twitch removes every member of its Safety Advisory Council

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Re: Twitch removes every member of its Safety Advisory Council

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Post by nozzlegear »

Ekaros wrote: post #30
tivert wrote: post #10

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> It was glorified user research. It doesn't sound like it was just that: > The Safety Advisory Council's members include Dr. Sameer Hinduja, co-director of the Cyber Bullying Research Center, and Dr. T.L. Taylor, the co-founder and director of AnyKey, an organization that advocates for inclusion and diversity in video games and esports. There's also Emma Llansó, the director of the Free Expression Project for the Ce…

Sounds to me like extensive bribing problem. These are exactly type of of people who use bad PR as as tool for their totalitarian worldviews.

And you’re basing that just on their names, or do you have something to back that assertion up?

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Post by viraptor »

zer00eyz wrote: post #13
demondemidi wrote: post #9

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Or be harassed. But that doesn’t matter when you’re in the majority, right?

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You're lucky - we have just the right study that already happened on another service! https://arxiv.org/html/2401.11254v1 Turns out that deplatforming works and has overall positive results.

"The Great Ban: Efficacy and Unintended Consequences of a Massive Deplatforming Operation on Reddit" - worth a read and answers your questions. Apart from the one about whether they change.. we'll likely never really know, but at least they won't pull as many others down with them.

Re: Twitch removes every member of its Safety Advisory Council

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Post by k8sToGo »

nubinetwork wrote: post #40
viraptor wrote: post #39

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Twitch is losing money. Now it's losing less. (I'm not saying it makes sense or will make a dent or anything else, just putting the fact out there - twitch has limited time to figure out how to make things work)

If twitch cared about money, they could easily stop providing storage and bandwidth for all the South American and Russian channels streaming pirated movies and TV 24/7.

I highly doubt that either are really making a dent in costs.

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Post by tsimionescu »

zer00eyz wrote: post #24
eastbound wrote: post #19

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No one considered Hitler a "socialist" (which still had a very positive association at the time). It was just a label he piggy backed on. None of the important socialists of the time ever had one good word to write about Hitler or his party. In fact, Hitler put communists and socialists in jail. Pointing out "Hitler was a SOCIALIST" is just a dumb ahistorical take, the mark of a propagandist.

And for mister Kelogg, he wasn't "the foundation" of the American Progressive movement, he was just a progressive. Plenty of other Progressives from that time were not eugenicists or avowed racists. Unfortunately, racism and eugenics were very popular in many parts of society in this time. There is still no doubt that today's Progressive movement is decidedly anti-racist and anti-eugenicist, while all neo-nazis are still proud to hold these 19th century views (with modern-day morons like Charles Murray to invent and lie their way to a more modern-day scientific racism).

Re: Twitch removes every member of its Safety Advisory Council

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Post by viraptor »

zer00eyz wrote: post #37
threeseed wrote: post #27

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This is simply not true. When you tolerate things such as child pornography, doxxing etc it makes the practice appear sanctioned and encourages others to join in. We saw this quite clearly with Reddit and Twitter.

Someone dressing up as a nazi and speaking isnt an actual crime. Bringing in actual crimes is false equivalence. So yes those things should have consequences. We have jury trials for a reason. Take the content down, send to the police and court. IF it isn't a crime then reinstate the user.

It's not an equivalence, but it's not unrelated given the number of people who committed actual crimes and were found to be very much involved in Nazi groups online. This just comes up again and again.

Re: Twitch removes every member of its Safety Advisory Council

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Post by nubinetwork »

k8sToGo wrote: post #44
nubinetwork wrote: post #40

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If twitch cared about money, they could easily stop providing storage and bandwidth for all the South American and Russian channels streaming pirated movies and TV 24/7.

I highly doubt that either are really making a dent in costs.

Running a CDN for ingest, and a CDN for viewing streams and VODs isn't cheap. Twitch still pays Amazon to run their equipment.

Re: Twitch removes every member of its Safety Advisory Council

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Post by tsimionescu »

zer00eyz wrote: post #13
demondemidi wrote: post #9

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Or be harassed. But that doesn’t matter when you’re in the majority, right?

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This is a complete non-sequitur. The GP was talking about harassment, which is a massive problem on any non-moderated public forum, regardless of political leaning of the harassee (or harassers).
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