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The big lie about sleep

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Re: The big lie about sleep

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Post by itishappy »

Epa095 wrote: post #30
mensetmanusman wrote: post #9

I keep telling my kids that a vastly overlooked trick to success is going to bed earlier and getting more sleep. That and gratitude (which is why our family has evening rituals around this).

Honest question: why do you think gratitude is a trick for success? I can understand for happiness, but don't you think gratitude is often at conflict with the inner drive needed for success?

No, I'd argue they're orthogonal. A purely self made man or woman is a rarity these days. Showing gratitude is a low cost way to strengthen your support network.

Re: The big lie about sleep

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Post by 2-3-7-43-1807 »

why do you have to be rich for good sleep hygiene? all you need is ...

... a regular sleep schedule

... time to mediate before going to sleep

... a dedicated sleeping room

... a mattress that actively controls its temperature to help you cool down

... a light alarm clock

... avoid stress

... special heavy weight blanket

... a calm and silent environment

and that's about it already.

i would also personally recommend to avoid financial stress and hardship by instructing your family office or portfolio manager to invest more conservatively.

Re: The big lie about sleep

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Post by greymalik »

kjkjadksj wrote: post #12
jerlam wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the big lie is that wellness companies, doctors, and sleep widget salespeople claim that you can improve your sleep with blackout curtains, less screen time, exercise, fancy tech, and a host of other strategies. But this article is saying that being healthier and richer improve your sleep more dramatically, and those are things that are not directly in your control.

I still don’t see any lie. You can have demography bias you for results and also take action for results, these aren’t mutually exclusive.

Your version of the headline won’t get as many clicks.

Re: The big lie about sleep

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Post by madhatter999 »

Epa095 wrote: post #30
mensetmanusman wrote: post #9

I keep telling my kids that a vastly overlooked trick to success is going to bed earlier and getting more sleep. That and gratitude (which is why our family has evening rituals around this).

Honest question: why do you think gratitude is a trick for success? I can understand for happiness, but don't you think gratitude is often at conflict with the inner drive needed for success?

This[0] study might have some pointers in the discussion section.

[0] Grateful students are motivated, engaged, and successful in school: Cross-sectional, longitudinal, and experimental evidence, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30340699/

Re: The big lie about sleep

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Post by veunes »

2-3-7-43-1807 wrote: post #42

why do you have to be rich for good sleep hygiene? all you need is ... ... a regular sleep schedule ... time to mediate before going to sleep ... a dedicated sleeping room ... a mattress that actively controls its temperature to help you cool down ... a light alarm clock ... avoid stress ... special heavy weight blanket ... a calm and silent environment and that's about it already. i would also personally recommend t…

For some of that you do not need to be rich. But agree calm and silent environment is indeed a luxury

Re: The big lie about sleep

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Post by veunes »

throw0101c wrote: post #39

If anyone wants to learn more I found Why We Sleep: Unlocking the Power of Sleep and Dreams by Matthew Walker to be a good read: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_We_Sleep * https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34466963-why-we-sleep * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Walker_(scientist)

Would you recommend some more? Really interested in that topic but find it difficult to find a good sources

Re: The big lie about sleep

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Post by cootsnuck »

Izkata wrote: post #36
strictnein wrote: post #10

> When it comes to slumber, what matters most is how rich you are. Looking at their sleep map, that swath of good sleep down the middle of the country seems to go against that, and isn't mentioned in the article (unless I missed it). Most of Minnesota, Nebraska, Iowa, and Colorado aren't "rich", but they get the best sleep. Wisconsin is slightly worse than those, but still rather good, and likely the only reason they…

Even more interesting is how the swaths are angled across the whole country, at just about the same angle as when sunrise actually is: https://freethoughtblogs.com/singham/2022/03/18/sunrise-time...

I immediately thought temperature and humidity.

But of course correlation yada yada causation.

Re: The big lie about sleep

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Post by WBrentWilliams »

veunes wrote: post #46
throw0101c wrote: post #39

If anyone wants to learn more I found Why We Sleep: Unlocking the Power of Sleep and Dreams by Matthew Walker to be a good read: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_We_Sleep * https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34466963-why-we-sleep * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Walker_(scientist)

Would you recommend some more? Really interested in that topic but find it difficult to find a good sources

Try the classic from 1976 to get an idea of what thinking on this was at the time funding for sleep science started: Some Must Watch While Some Must Sleep (Dement, 1976, 1978): https://archive.org/details/somemustwatchwhi00dem_3n2 (1978 edition)
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