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Making housing more affordable means your home's value will have to come down

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Re: Making housing more affordable means your home's value will have to come down

#41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That means there is not enough. Housing can't be affordable if a small set of organizations can have it all.

Its just that never before has there been an investment firm large enough to take a big enough share of the largest market in the world, the US housing market.

They didn't take a large share of US housing, they took a large share of available housing. Several orders of magnitude difference.

Re: Making housing more affordable means your home's value will have to come down

#42

It seems like the author is willfully miss-understanding Trudeau's statement. Value and affordability can be considered independently. Increasing median income and economic growth both increase affordability, even if housing costs track inflation.

> Increasing median income and economic growth both increase affordability, even if housing costs track inflation.

Given 1% growth a year that would take close to a lifetime to just halve current home prices per income. It isn't a solution for the people living today.

Re: Making housing more affordable means your home's value will have to come down

#43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Investment banks will just buy up any affordable housing.

That means there is not enough. Housing can't be affordable if a small set of organizations can have it all.

If housing prices drop and a crisis ensues, government/central banks lower interest rates and provide stimulus in the form of grants/loans/monetary expansion to prop them up. It becomes clear that the only way to make housing affordable is for authorities to have the political courage to let a crash happen.

Re: Making housing more affordable means your home's value will have to come down

#44

I really don't give a shit about the financial value of my home to someone else. Sure, my mortgage is calculated on it and I'll be paying that for the rest of my life but the true "value" of my home is the quality of life my family and I can enjoy here. What you're talking about is how much money some investor can make off of the desire of people to have this quality of life value for themselves. And quite honestly i…

unfortunately this cannot be viewed in isolation. For example, a drop in house prices may cause people with a mortgage to become technically or practically insolvent, as happened in japan. So, for better or worse, if you are tied up in a house, your fate may be tied to the future value of that house. but in principle, i too would like to agree :-/

Re: Making housing more affordable means your home's value will have to come down

#45
post #32

I think it’s weird we haven’t made any new cities in what, 100 years? We just keep trying to crowd into existing places.

People don't want to be part of founding new places. They don't want to go to small places.

Re: Making housing more affordable means your home's value will have to come down

#47

I really don't give a shit about the financial value of my home to someone else. Sure, my mortgage is calculated on it and I'll be paying that for the rest of my life but the true "value" of my home is the quality of life my family and I can enjoy here. What you're talking about is how much money some investor can make off of the desire of people to have this quality of life value for themselves. And quite honestly i…

I think you are an outlier if resale value doesnt matter.

It matters to me for many reasons I doubt you find sickening or sinister. It matters because my family might want or need to move for work. It also forms a major part of my retirement, and how I will feed and take care of myself in advanced age

It makes perfect sense that it has financial value to someone else, because it would take a tremendous amount of material and labor to re-create if it burned down.

Re: Making housing more affordable means your home's value will have to come down

#48
post #35

I think non affordable housing makes values come down too. Just I a less controlled way. Eventually people will just stop participating in the housing game and there’s no telling where that will lead.

Stop participating in the housing game? How? By becoming homeless?

Re: Making housing more affordable means your home's value will have to come down

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post #32

I think it’s weird we haven’t made any new cities in what, 100 years? We just keep trying to crowd into existing places.

Apparently the population of Las Vegas was ~2k people in 1920. I think cities just take a while to grow.

Re: Making housing more affordable means your home's value will have to come down

#50

Why do new homes have to be built in competition with existing homes? With remote work and the digital elite moving wherever, why not just pop up new developments wholesale, complete with shopping and services somewhere out of the way and cheap?

Because people also care a lot about their families and the communities they live in. Being close to family and friends is a very tough point to argue against.

It is arguably a relatively new phenomenon though. We are willing to move far less than we used to, even if moving means less than ever before.
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