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Re: Arthur Whitney releases an open-source subset of K with MIT license

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Post by sph » Sat, Jun 01, 2024, 11:27 AM UTC

cenamus wrote: post #36

frankjr wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand how. How do you debug something this? How do you go about fixing a bug? There are no docs nor tests. It seems like one would spend hours just trying to understand what's going on. Is there a good source on their methodology? Because my mind is blown.

I recommend checking out more of the APL family language family and the history of the notation, highly interesting. Almost like a parallel universe of computing, when you look past the syntax.

Yes, but C isn't APL. I don't buy it that this how it was written from day 1. Occam's razor and all, this is obfuscated C, not code written by an alien superintelligence.

Re: Arthur Whitney releases an open-source subset of K with MIT license

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Post by aebtebeten » Sat, Jun 01, 2024, 11:29 AM UTC

PufPufPuf wrote: post #40

The website reads like an edgy script-kiddy blog. Is K actually a useful project, or is it just a passion project of someone who happens to be sort of famous?

Consider, mutatis mutandis, https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/why-i-couldn39t-be-a-math-...

Lagniappe: click on the circular red button underneath the comic, to the right of the orange "RANDOM" :-)

Re: Arthur Whitney releases an open-source subset of K with MIT license

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Post by dchest » Sat, Jun 01, 2024, 11:30 AM UTC

Everyone here charges too little for software.

  the free(MIT license) version is shakti.com/k/k.zip

  the supported version(supported and 10 to 100 times faster)
  is $100K per month(minimum)

https://groups.google.com/g/shaktidb/c/5SPufca3mo4

Re: Arthur Whitney releases an open-source subset of K with MIT license

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Post by victorbjorklund » Sat, Jun 01, 2024, 11:31 AM UTC

Can someone explain how it can be "faster" than anything else?

Re: Arthur Whitney releases an open-source subset of K with MIT license

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Post by pjmlp » Sat, Jun 01, 2024, 11:31 AM UTC

nickpeterson wrote: post #20

Well I know what the next episode of the arraycast is going to talk about now.

Already looking forward to when it might be addressed. :)

Re: Arthur Whitney releases an open-source subset of K with MIT license

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Post by andrepd » Sat, Jun 01, 2024, 11:31 AM UTC

This reads like the incomprehensible ramblings of a mentally ill patient scribbling in the walls. There is zero context, zero explanation. Very vague or incomplete statements scattered all over the place. I don't understand what someone not already familiar with the project is supposed to take away from this.

Is the terseness of the site mean to reproduce the terseness of the language? Is that the gimmick?

Re: Arthur Whitney releases an open-source subset of K with MIT license

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Post by tluyben2 » Sat, Jun 01, 2024, 11:32 AM UTC

KRAKRISMOTT wrote: post #38

This is probably his last attempt at leaving a legacy given his age. I wonder if Wolfram would do something similar.

There is a lot to learn from him; tiny binaries, super fast performance; programming style you like or don't, that's fine. To have a 200kb binary that's a programming language + database is very nice. It's great we can study a part of it and probably more in the future. We went overboard with bloating and complexity; it's good to be shown you can write current enterprise/commercial products that fits in the memory of an 80s homecomputer without changing your style of programming or tools you use for it. IMHO anyway.

Re: Arthur Whitney releases an open-source subset of K with MIT license

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Post by andrepd » Sat, Jun 01, 2024, 11:33 AM UTC

victorbjorklund wrote: post #44

Can someone explain how it can be "faster" than anything else?

My money is on "it's not, and the benchmarks are cherry picked"

I mean faster at filtering data than a python script? Sure. Faster than a database or hand-rolled C code? Only if your benchmarks are misleading.

Re: Arthur Whitney releases an open-source subset of K with MIT license

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Post by r8533292 » Sat, Jun 01, 2024, 11:33 AM UTC

tosh wrote: post #13

How does it compare to the k that you can license from shakti or to ngn/k?

as of right now it's a desktop calculator, functions, conditionals and loops are missing, you can see its scope here https://shakti.com/k/k.d

Re: Arthur Whitney releases an open-source subset of K with MIT license

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Post by 082349872349872 » Sat, Jun 01, 2024, 11:33 AM UTC

victorbjorklund wrote: post #44

Can someone explain how it can be "faster" than anything else?

I think he's referring to the trillion-row regime: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40522433