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After Furiosa flops, Hollywood could be facing a biblically disastrous summer

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Post by darth_avocado »

201984 wrote: post #26
darth_avocado wrote: post #19

I’ve seen a lot of explanations for this, but talking to most people my age, there’s only one that’s the real reason: the economics are terrible for watching a movie. The tickets are averaging $20-30 per person around where I live. In 2018, the same movies cost $7-13. Parking and food push the costs even higher. All for a couple of hours of entertainment. I can watch the same movie for $20 when it comes out on DVD. I…

If you're a regular movie goer, you can get a monthly pass for a little over $20 at the big theater chains. It pays off if you see 2 movies a month, or just 1 if it's IMAX.

That works well when you go to movies alone, for a family of 4, that cost starts going up to $100/month. And unfortunately, not enough good movies come up during the year to justify spending $1000+ every year on just movies. You’re better off watching a couple movies in theaters and then watching the rest on DVD.

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Post by thenoblesunfish »

There are some reasons to be interested, given how expensive they are to make (in some genres), but overall I am always surprised how much we all seem to care how much movies cost and earn. I don't ask that about books or musical recordings or even TV shows, yet somehow with movies I'm an investor?

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Post by ethbr1 »

tdeck wrote: post #24
finack wrote: post #5

The solution is painfully obvious for anyone who isn't actually involved in milking every last red cent out of media: make movies people actually want to see, and not just shameless cash grabs recycling everything from 1980 onward. Of course, now every suit expects every movie to gross a billion dollars, so that's not going to happen. It's a fun dream, though.

I can't remember where now, but I read that these reboot cash grabs are largely aimed at overseas markets like China which make up the majority of film earnings nowadays.

There's a reason science fiction was popular in the Soviet Union...

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finack wrote: post #6
ramesh31 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So did streaming releases + sub $1k 80 inch 4k TVs. The value of going to a theater at this point is almost nonexistent for most people.

I love movie theatres. I hate stupidly expensive popcorn and people talking and using their phones the entire time.

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Post by nickthegreek »

finack wrote: post #6
ramesh31 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So did streaming releases + sub $1k 80 inch 4k TVs. The value of going to a theater at this point is almost nonexistent for most people.

I love movie theatres. I hate stupidly expensive popcorn and people talking and using their phones the entire time.

Phone use doesnt seem to be an issue anymore in my city. Ive been to the theater on opening weekend 3 times this year and Ive never seen more than 10 people at my movie. And with assigned seating, no one even chooses seats near another person. The biggest draw to going to the theater these days is how empty they are. They solved the biggest issue, other people!

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Post by ethbr1 »

mgaunard wrote: post #36
dageshi wrote: post #8

A variety of mediums replaced casual movie going for a portion of people who used to go. Now I think a movie has to particularly resonate with the wider audience in order to get people to go out at all. Even beyond that, I wonder if the current young generation even watches tv or movies at all? Or do they watch youtube/twitch and play video games instead?

They don't play video games, they watch people play video games.

As a 21 year old explained to me, "Playing video games is a lot of work."

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Post by DHPersonal »

jmclnx wrote: post #12

Most of these seem to be "retreads". I saw Dune II and I thought it was very good. Too bad Hollywood is too afraid to invest in movies with a real story. Seems to them, Action means Bullets and Car Chases, SF means Special Effects and Lasers with nothing to do with Science.

> Most of these seem to be "retreads". I saw Dune II…

I know what you mean, but this still made me chuckle, because the recent Dune’s a retread, too.

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Post by darth_avocado »

bananamerica wrote: post #38
darth_avocado wrote: post #19

I’ve seen a lot of explanations for this, but talking to most people my age, there’s only one that’s the real reason: the economics are terrible for watching a movie. The tickets are averaging $20-30 per person around where I live. In 2018, the same movies cost $7-13. Parking and food push the costs even higher. All for a couple of hours of entertainment. I can watch the same movie for $20 when it comes out on DVD. I…

Are you really watching DVDs on modern large screens though? Maybe you meant Blu-ray. DVDs look terrible on modern screens.

It’s still called a “DVD release” whether it’s 4K or blue ray or streaming on Amazon. You understood what I was saying. This was an unnecessary nit.

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Post by musha68k »

slibhb wrote: post #31
finack wrote: post #5

The solution is painfully obvious for anyone who isn't actually involved in milking every last red cent out of media: make movies people actually want to see, and not just shameless cash grabs recycling everything from 1980 onward. Of course, now every suit expects every movie to gross a billion dollars, so that's not going to happen. It's a fun dream, though.

Is Furiosa a cash grab? I haven't seen it yet but Fury Road was anything but.

Yeah this is most likely the wrong movie to blame.

Fury Road was IMHO the blockbuster movie of the 2010s.

I didn't have time yet but very much looking forward to see what George Miller has cooked up this time around!

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Post by abakker »

201984 wrote: post #26
darth_avocado wrote: post #19

I’ve seen a lot of explanations for this, but talking to most people my age, there’s only one that’s the real reason: the economics are terrible for watching a movie. The tickets are averaging $20-30 per person around where I live. In 2018, the same movies cost $7-13. Parking and food push the costs even higher. All for a couple of hours of entertainment. I can watch the same movie for $20 when it comes out on DVD. I…

If you're a regular movie goer, you can get a monthly pass for a little over $20 at the big theater chains. It pays off if you see 2 movies a month, or just 1 if it's IMAX.

This creates the same "cohort effect" you see in Ski season pass pricing. People who get a good deal from the pass and pay relatively little to go a lot, and people....who just don't go anymore.

The whole model this is based on is basically creating a giant audience segmentation and aiming a big part of the funnel at your [competitors, alternatives, etc]

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