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Suno has raised $125M to build a future where anyone can make music

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Re: Suno has raised $125M to build a future where anyone can make music

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Post by simmanian »

kadushka wrote: post #6
ein0p wrote: post #3

It’s a fun service and an impressive demo, but to “make music” I need a lot more control than just entering the lyrics and describing the style. That said, there are some awesome examples there already, even with the current limitations, so I’m hopeful. Apparently so are their investors.

If you're looking for control, check out https://www.aiva.ai It's MIDI based, and provides a piano roll interface for editing.

I wonder if you can really claim copyright on ai generated music like aiva is trying to do.

Re: Suno has raised $125M to build a future where anyone can make music

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Post by unclebucknasty »

This kind of mission of "enabling anyone to do X" seems to undermine the value it claims to provide.

So, if anyone can make music, then what's the value of being able to make music?

But, if what it enables still requires some rare talent or significant learning to make good music, then how is that different from today? And, well, anyone can already make bad music.

Or maybe I'm just in my greybeard "get off my lawn" mode today.

Re: Suno has raised $125M to build a future where anyone can make music

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Post by CuriouslyC »

searine wrote: post #23

It is kind of crazy that "BBL Drizzy" of all things set a precedent. Using AI to create an incomplete song and then a real producer using it as a royalty-free sample to create an actual hit song. I could see this paradigm becoming insanely popular with indie artists to make high quality / low skill backing tracks for their vocals.

If you want to see how AI music is going to play out, just look at how AI images have played out already. AI tools are used pretty ubiquitously now by digital illustrators, who use it to flesh out or quickly build up a prototype from hand drawn outlines, then add finishing flourishes to make it look "human."

Re: Suno has raised $125M to build a future where anyone can make music

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Post by a_wild_dandan »

sebzim4500 wrote: post #26
kadushka wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're looking for control, check out https://www.aiva.ai It's MIDI based, and provides a piano roll interface for editing.

The example song is the best instrumental I've seen generated with AI, and it isn't close. Since you have a lot of customization though, it's hard to judge how much is the AI and how much is the human.

The example song reminds me of playing Divinity: Original Sin 2. I wonder if game soundtracks were part of training.

Re: Suno has raised $125M to build a future where anyone can make music

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Post by janice1999 »

ein0p wrote: post #21
janice1999 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Automating slop will absolutely increase its volume multiple orders of magnitude. At least human made music, however terrible, stands the chance of accidentally being interesting.

When everyone can produce “slop” in seconds the value of slop rapidly approaches zero and you have to do something the machine can’t do, which is produce original, superior material. You also get to use generations as a starting point and improve upon them. I think if anything this will only improve the human SOTA.

I think that's naive - good luck finding the "superior" material when the marketplace is flooded with garbage. Amazon users are facing this exact issue at the moment with chatGPT generated 'books'. Users and site operators cannot scale up to filter out the low quality sludge being generated by AI.

Re: Suno has raised $125M to build a future where anyone can make music

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Post by norwalkbear »

ein0p wrote: post #12
jsheard wrote: post #2

Yeah I've heard this story before. What's actually going to happen is that Spotify and every other music streaming service will be filled with 50 million functionally identical AI generated songs made by people looking to scrape off a few cents when people listen to them by accident.

Spotify is already filled with “10 million of functionally identical songs” made by people “looking to scrape off a few cents”. The state of the art, such as it is, could hardly be any worse.

The AI actually makes better music than most of the amateurs on spotify
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