iTerm2 3.5.0 • Hacker News Board

Re: iTerm2 3.5.0

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Post by benrutter » Tue, May 21, 2024, 9:02 AM UTC

A lot of the comments mention the AI inclusion from an LLM-is-everywhere point of view. I'm also a little confused about why behaviour like that is in a terminal rather than a shell?

To my mind I just want the terminal to render text and handle input, and then it's my shell's job to define behaviour of commands etc.

I find that a super helpful distinction- what if you like iterm but want a different shell like fish or xonsh? How does the LLM integrate there? Is it still gonna spit out zsh commands?

I'm not an apple user, so maybe I'm missing something abouf iterm?

Re: iTerm2 3.5.0

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Post by flohofwoe » Tue, May 21, 2024, 9:02 AM UTC

I'm really disappointed that iTerm2 is adding AI gimmicks :/ Last place I want that crap integrated is in the terminal. Next disappointment is that there's no obvious checkbox for disabling it.

Re: iTerm2 3.5.0

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Post by dakiol » Tue, May 21, 2024, 9:02 AM UTC

swiftcoder wrote: post #32

So what are the good Mac-centric alternatives for folks who don't want OpenAI snooping around their terminal? Warp already went all-in on AI and cloud, now iTerm headed down that same path. Alacritty? Kitty? Hyper?

Stay with iterm It has been a while since the last release… I don’t mind staying outdated for some more time.

Also, I’m not sure if the openai thingy is mandatory.

Re: iTerm2 3.5.0

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Post by Eikon » Tue, May 21, 2024, 9:02 AM UTC

swiftcoder wrote: post #32

So what are the good Mac-centric alternatives for folks who don't want OpenAI snooping around their terminal? Warp already went all-in on AI and cloud, now iTerm headed down that same path. Alacritty? Kitty? Hyper?

Terminal.app that is shipped with MacOS is very good.

Re: iTerm2 3.5.0

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Post by slmjkdbtl » Tue, May 21, 2024, 9:02 AM UTC

oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #26

I've been a big fan of iTerm for the last 10+ years. What do people think is the best alternative?

I've been using wezterm for a long time now, feels very light but very powerful and great customizability.

Re: iTerm2 3.5.0

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Post by swiftcoder » Tue, May 21, 2024, 9:03 AM UTC

thiht wrote: post #37

swiftcoder wrote: post #32

So what are the good Mac-centric alternatives for folks who don't want OpenAI snooping around their terminal? Warp already went all-in on AI and cloud, now iTerm headed down that same path. Alacritty? Kitty? Hyper?

> good Mac-centric alternatives for folks who don't want OpenAI snooping around their terminal iTerm, since they don't do that. Just keep it disabled. Unless you consider any terminal that lets you make network calls to OpenAI = OpenAI snooping around.

I don't think "it's fine, I unchecked the OpenAI checkbox" is going to make my HIPAA/SOC2 auditor very happy

Re: iTerm2 3.5.0

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Post by srik » Tue, May 21, 2024, 9:04 AM UTC

swiftcoder wrote: post #32

So what are the good Mac-centric alternatives for folks who don't want OpenAI snooping around their terminal? Warp already went all-in on AI and cloud, now iTerm headed down that same path. Alacritty? Kitty? Hyper?

Don’t be like that. Even as it is, iTerm is the furthest thing from Warp. The ai api is upto you to hook up using your own provider key, you don’t have to use to and everything else remains the same. And it’s reasonable to assume they chose the OpenAI rn because it has become the unofficial defacto standard, should a universal one emerge I’m fairly confident iTerm would use that. iTerm’s been around long enough and deserves some good will no?

Re: iTerm2 3.5.0

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Post by matthewmacleod » Tue, May 21, 2024, 9:04 AM UTC

swiftcoder wrote: post #32

So what are the good Mac-centric alternatives for folks who don't want OpenAI snooping around their terminal? Warp already went all-in on AI and cloud, now iTerm headed down that same path. Alacritty? Kitty? Hyper?

I mean… you can literally just either not turn it on, or make your own build of this open-source project.

Re: iTerm2 3.5.0

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Post by matthewmacleod » Tue, May 21, 2024, 9:05 AM UTC

swiftcoder wrote: post #46

thiht wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> good Mac-centric alternatives for folks who don't want OpenAI snooping around their terminal iTerm, since they don't do that. Just keep it disabled. Unless you consider any terminal that lets you make network calls to OpenAI = OpenAI snooping around.

I don't think "it's fine, I unchecked the OpenAI checkbox" is going to make my HIPAA/SOC2 auditor very happy

Get a better auditor then.

Re: iTerm2 3.5.0

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Post by anta40 » Tue, May 21, 2024, 9:07 AM UTC

swiftcoder wrote: post #32

So what are the good Mac-centric alternatives for folks who don't want OpenAI snooping around their terminal? Warp already went all-in on AI and cloud, now iTerm headed down that same path. Alacritty? Kitty? Hyper?

So far I'm happy with WezTerm for daily use. Sometimes still use iTerm, though.