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49 bucks a month for 10gbe.
I have only seen it get up to 8gb in TESTING... I might be able to get to 9.
That is a stupid amount of bandwidth.
I give it 6 months before I get a call and they fire me as a client. Cause im going to try to use the hell out of it.
I know people disagree with me about this. I certainly hate it that governments gave local monopolies to companies like Comcast That said, I'm pretty confident municipal internet is bad thing in the long run (compared to actually competitive markets, not local monopolies) Problems: (1) Unlike say, water, sewage, power - internet tech changes 10gig might seem fast today. In 15 years it will seem slow. Will the governm…
...and I want a pony!
Last-mile infrastructure tends towards monopoly unless you provide it through the government or regulate it so heavily you might as well have. There is too much cost in redundant buildout to support competition and it's too difficult to tell dumping from price discovery to just fix it with antitrust. Not to mention for the last 40 years the USA has pursued antitrust with less enthusiasm than a decaffinated sloth, so leaning on antitrust would be an idea so terrible that only a corporate lobbyist should ever propose such a thing (and we shouldn't allow that either, but let's talk about one evil at a time).
Last-mile was the "network effects" before "network effects" -- the game theoretic cheat code for capitalism that all the rich investors dreamed about owning. There's a reason why we don't let the free market provide roads or utilities, and that same reason absolutely applies to internet service. This has been proven again and again and again across the nation by letting the game play out and seeing the inevitable result. Why do you think the game will end differently on the 4,952nd playthrough?
Meanwhile I live 20 minutes from Google's heardquarters and I can't even get more than 25 Mbps uplink. Maybe these big internet companies should dig up all the infrastructure in their home turf and replace it?
They're not allowed to. Regulatory capture is running wild.
I don't know which podcast, and I'm almost certain it is some dumbass podcast somewhere, is promulgating the phrase which has been popping up with ludicrous regularity in 2024 to describe every situation where someone is pissed off about something, but the primary reason people don't have 10gbps internet isn't regulatory capture, it is that the deployment costs are too high unless either subsidized by the government (as is the case in many parts of Europe and this instance) or there is a combination of high density and eager market.
"20 minutes from Google's Headquarters" is San Jose. San Jose is served by over 20 ISPs offering services from wireless to 10-gig fiber depending on location. The locations aren't determined by "regulatory capture" they are determined by a cost-benefit analysis.
You, yes you, can start your own ISP anywhere in the country, right now, today. Anywhere.
Remember 20 years ago when NYC gave Verizon exclusive franchise rights and then everyone got upset that they didn't fulfill their end of the bargain? That's gone. Everywhere, it's gone. Anyone, including you, yes you, can get a permit to microtrench fiber to any building in NYC unless there is excess capacity already in which case the party holding the excess capacity MUST sublicense it to you.
Same for California. Same for any state.
Rural Texas? Vexus Fiber is diggin shit up in Tyler TX. Middle of nowhere WA? Ziply is taking the risk.
Doesn't matter if it is the densest or most historically protected city or loneliest prairie town you, yes you, can start an ISP right now, today.
Reforms to the Pole Attachment Act have made this shit is easy now. Easy, but not cheap.
Just gather $100 million so you can pay the $30k-50k per mile (due to material and labor NOT "rEgUlAtoRy CaPtuRe") to microtrench or pole-attach, get all of the permits to trench on public rights-of-way and negotiate the few (if any) non-public crossings you have to make, post the bonds needed to ensure that if you go bankrupt mid-construction there's cash to clean up YOUR mess, hire the network/civil engineers needed, pay for peering, staff an office and support center, and you, yes you, can start your own fiber ISP--today.
Hell, many states will give you money to offset the costs.
If I had $100 million I could wire all 2,300 homes in my Maryland suburb with fiber and no regulation could stop me. If I had $100 million I wouldn't waste it on that (we can already choose from multiple gigabit+ ISPs) I would retire.
I know people disagree with me about this. I certainly hate it that governments gave local monopolies to companies like Comcast That said, I'm pretty confident municipal internet is bad thing in the long run (compared to actually competitive markets, not local monopolies) Problems: (1) Unlike say, water, sewage, power - internet tech changes 10gig might seem fast today. In 15 years it will seem slow. Will the governm…
I know people disagree with me about this. I certainly hate it that governments gave local monopolies to companies like Comcast That said, I'm pretty confident municipal internet is bad thing in the long run (compared to actually competitive markets, not local monopolies) Problems: (1) Unlike say, water, sewage, power - internet tech changes 10gig might seem fast today. In 15 years it will seem slow. Will the governm…
And I live in a real city (Does New Orleans qualify ? Let’s say yes. )
Where is the free market in my situation ? I would throw money at anything else than cox.
It does exists in other part of the city. Not where I live. I’m within city limit, in a relatively affluent neighborhood.
It’s just weird.
I know people disagree with me about this. I certainly hate it that governments gave local monopolies to companies like Comcast That said, I'm pretty confident municipal internet is bad thing in the long run (compared to actually competitive markets, not local monopolies) Problems: (1) Unlike say, water, sewage, power - internet tech changes 10gig might seem fast today. In 15 years it will seem slow. Will the governm…
This is a pretty silly comment given the "private" options that could have been at gbps speed for a decade+ are still at DSL and Cable speeds. Blind faith in 'the market' to solve these things after it's failed to do so seems odd.
I know people disagree with me about this. I certainly hate it that governments gave local monopolies to companies like Comcast That said, I'm pretty confident municipal internet is bad thing in the long run (compared to actually competitive markets, not local monopolies) Problems: (1) Unlike say, water, sewage, power - internet tech changes 10gig might seem fast today. In 15 years it will seem slow. Will the governm…
This is a pretty silly comment given the "private" options that could have been at gbps speed for a decade+ are still at DSL and Cable speeds. Blind faith in 'the market' to solve these things after it's failed to do so seems odd.
I know people disagree with me about this. I certainly hate it that governments gave local monopolies to companies like Comcast That said, I'm pretty confident municipal internet is bad thing in the long run (compared to actually competitive markets, not local monopolies) Problems: (1) Unlike say, water, sewage, power - internet tech changes 10gig might seem fast today. In 15 years it will seem slow. Will the governm…
I don’t think we need to wait 10 years. There are already countless examples of private providers with out of date speeds, unreasonable bandwidth caps, etc and no competitor to place any kind of meaningful challenge.
I live in the bay area and just got sonic fiber to my house. 49 bucks a month for 10gbe. I have only seen it get up to 8gb in TESTING... I might be able to get to 9. That is a stupid amount of bandwidth. I give it 6 months before I get a call and they fire me as a client. Cause im going to try to use the hell out of it.
I know people disagree with me about this. I certainly hate it that governments gave local monopolies to companies like Comcast That said, I'm pretty confident municipal internet is bad thing in the long run (compared to actually competitive markets, not local monopolies) Problems: (1) Unlike say, water, sewage, power - internet tech changes 10gig might seem fast today. In 15 years it will seem slow. Will the governm…
Points 2 and 3 seem imagined, and points 1 and 3 contradict each other. Either the municipal net is slow and will be replaced by for-profit competition, or it’s fast enough to shut out rent-seeking, but you probably don’t get to claim both.