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What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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Re: What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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In pop culture, there's a very common mixup between tracheotomy (the actual incision or cut made into the trachea) and tracheostomy (the overall procedure involving the creation of the hole, aka stoma).

Case in point, about 40s in: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpt0qf5qowg

Re: What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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Similarly, -itis vs. -osis. -itis means the part of the body is swollen, while -osis means the part of the body is damaged. I found this out back in 2012, when I had a very nasty case of tendonitis in one of my feet, and I found out that the vast majority of cases of tendonitis should be called tendinosis instead, as it's pretty rare for the tendons themselves to swell; rather, the tendons themselves deteriorate from…

> -itis means the part of the body is swollen, while -osis means the part of the body is damaged. Does the suffix have any similar meaning outside of medicine? Like, osmosis?

-osis isn't a suffix at all; compare crisis, stasis, or paralysis.

-sis is just a noun-forming suffix.

Re: What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

itis -> infection.

itis = inflammation Infection can cause an itis, but not all itis is due to infection. Such as inflammatory arthritis (noninfectious) vs septic arthritis (infectious).

senioritis?

Re: What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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Cecil’s answer isn’t quite right. “ectomy” is indeed “cut it out” but the first definition he gives for “ostomy” (“cut a hole in something”) is the proper definition for “otomy”. The second “ostomy” definition is correct: creating a stoma (mouth). It’s all Greek, for real.

Re: What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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In pop culture, there's a very common mixup between tracheotomy (the actual incision or cut made into the trachea) and tracheostomy (the overall procedure involving the creation of the hole, aka stoma).

So I guess tracheology is the study of throats, and tracheaectomy is what werewolves would do.

And a historical dig site is an archaeotomy. :D

Re: What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So I guess tracheology is the study of throats, and tracheaectomy is what werewolves would do.

To make even more confusing, laryngology is the surgical specialty you would go see for a tracheal issue in the neck. (where a trach is performed) And a head and neck surgeon (oncologic surgery) is the one that performs the most laryngectomies. Fricken otolaryngologists…isnt the one name complicated enough.

Laryngologists are head and neck surgeons, in the US and most commonwealth at least where the general training is “otolaryngology-head and neck surgery”. There is further subspecialization in head and neck for oncologic, reconstructive, and (micro)vascular procedures usually just called “head and neck”, true, which is confusing.

Re: What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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Similarly, -itis vs. -osis. -itis means the part of the body is swollen, while -osis means the part of the body is damaged. I found this out back in 2012, when I had a very nasty case of tendonitis in one of my feet, and I found out that the vast majority of cases of tendonitis should be called tendinosis instead, as it's pretty rare for the tendons themselves to swell; rather, the tendons themselves deteriorate from…

Also, hyper- is more, hypo- is less.

Or even too much/high vs too little/low.

Re: What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> -itis means the part of the body is swollen, while -osis means the part of the body is damaged What if the part of the body is swollen and damaged?

-opathy would generally be suitable. It implied a pathological condition involving some form of tissue damage or dysfunction. Minor clarification, swelling does not necessarily always mean inflammation. -itis refers to inflammation of an organ or area of the both. Swelling, particularly when from fluid retention, is referred to as -edema. There is overlap though. :)

So homeopathy is basically full body dysfunction?

Re: What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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Back in the day, the legal system in the UK deliberately divested itself of some Latin terminology in favour of more modern terms. I think the idea was to open up law a bit to the common man. A lot of legal terms are still thinly veiled Latin, with a soupcon (yes the cedilla is missing - this is English) of Anglo-Saxon and obviously: Old Greek, mashed in. It will make for better telly anyway ... You might think that…

I find that doctors in the UK are very well trained to communicate using common English with patients. They will generally never use medical jargon without being prompted, defaulting to the simplest English first[0], and if they do use medical terms then they generally introduce them. It must be a particular focus of UK medical education.

[0] every GP says “tummy” instead of stomach or abdomen, something I find a bit infantile, but it does get the job done.

Re: What’s the difference between an -ectomy, an -ostomy, and an -otomy? (1986)

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I am hijacking this thread to express my general displeasure at popular use of the word claustrophobic . "The room is very claustrophobic"?? Really? How else does the wainscoting feel today?

As a Greek, I feel the need to protest the corruption of the word cleistophobia (kleisto = closed) into claustrophobia. Claus- sounds like the root of "to cry" (e.g. clausigelos = crying laughter), so a Greek reading claustrophobia thinks of people who are afraid of crying (though the proper rendering of a word composite with that meaning would be klauthmophobia).

Claustro- comes from Latin Claustrum, which shares the same root as the Greek word. Claustrophobia wasn’t a word in Latin or Greek though, it’s a modern hybrid.
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