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Dell leak details next-gen Windows on Arm chips

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Re: Dell leak details next-gen Windows on Arm chips

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Post by ZoomerCretin »

hug wrote: post #22
dannyw wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YMMV. I have always had extremely pleasant, hassle-free, and fast support and warranty from Dell. It's not that their monitors or laptops fail more often, I've just been buying them for a decade.

As someone who has had literally thousands of Dells: fuck Dell with a rake. Second only on the chart of “companies to never buy from” to HP.

Yep. My second Dell laptop had the screen hinge break, because they anchor the damned things in plastic, and the screen case is rarely rigid. Google "Dell laptop hinge issue" and see how many results you get, and how far back they go. At least 15 years.

There's no reasonable explanation aside from planned obsolescence.

Re: Dell leak details next-gen Windows on Arm chips

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Post by nerdjon »

We really are doing this "AI PC" thing I guess?

I was really hoping we would just... not. Not looking forward to those ads being all over showing gimmick that most probably don't want. Hopefully we don't start seeing "AI PC Ready" parts for custom builds.

Hopefully the LTSC version of Windows 11 doesn't have any of this crap in it.

Also great, so the hardware will be fine. Still not convinced Microsoft can pull off ARM in any meaningful way compared to Apple. I highly doubt the entire PC market will switch over anytime soon unlike Mac.

Re: Dell leak details next-gen Windows on Arm chips

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Post by WillAdams »

daghamm wrote: post #2

Modem standby 0.3W?? I don't think CPU change alone will make these devices super-efficient. And why is web browsing such a battery sink? Are they using an old version of edge? Is it full of random extensions?? By the way, 15 minutes into a thread about CPUs and discussion has not yet been hijacked by the fans of "that other company". Maybe HN is improving?

The thing is, the previous version of Edge (before it became a re-badged Google Chrome) was quite notable for being easier on battery life, and that was marketed as an advantage for it, one which seemed to be the case in my experience.

I wish it would come back, or that there was some other web browser option for Windows (guess I should try Firefox again).

Re: Dell leak details next-gen Windows on Arm chips

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Post by duxup »

mmaniac wrote: post #16

Dell will put almost anything but Ryzens in their laptops.

How many options are there? Intel, AMD, now Qualcomm ... I guess you could count whatever they put in their chromebooks (if they still make those) but those are sorta specific situations.

Is almost anything all of 2 other options?

Re: Dell leak details next-gen Windows on Arm chips

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Post by someonehere »

uyzstvqs wrote: post #39

Most probably this will be Microsoft's response to Chromebooks in the classroom. Same concept but integrated with Microsoft Office, Outlook and whatever, something many schools are using on their Chromebooks already. The entire shtick of Windows is it's userbase and app library on x86. Porting your app to Android tablets makes more sense than porting to Windows on ARM, and developing a PWA web app makes more sense th…

I can also see sales people.

I know from a friend who worked at Brex that said they offered Chromebooks for people who just needed a web browser. That was mostly sales and support staff like HR.

Re: Dell leak details next-gen Windows on Arm chips

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Post by Dalewyn »

duxup wrote: post #23
Dalewyn wrote: post #4

>Dell is planning to refresh its XPS 13 Plus from 2022, with a touch bar on the top row of the keyboard and only two USB-C ports for I/O. If I wanted a Macbook I would get a Macbook instead of some frankenstein knockoff that can't run neither Win32 nor Mac.

The XPS line has for a long time been Dells thin + performance laptops. If that's not what you want... I don't know why you'd be considering that line.

What part of thin and performance demands only 2 USB ports?

I have an M2 Macbook Air. The damn thing can fit a dozen USB ports on both sides, as far as physical space is concerned. I like its speakers and battery life, but I hate the lack of connectivity.

Re: Dell leak details next-gen Windows on Arm chips

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Post by duxup »

Dalewyn wrote: post #46
duxup wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The XPS line has for a long time been Dells thin + performance laptops. If that's not what you want... I don't know why you'd be considering that line.

What part of thin and performance demands only 2 USB ports? I have an M2 Macbook Air. The damn thing can fit a dozen USB ports on both sides, as far as physical space is concerned. I like its speakers and battery life, but I hate the lack of connectivity.

I really don't care about "demands". You could ask someone who knows more about the physical laptop design. That's not me.

It seems strange to take issue with Dell's showboat ultrabook, for being an ultrabook, when for years (maybe longer) it has been an ultrabook with all the trade offs that come with it. Pick a different line of laptops.

Re: Dell leak details next-gen Windows on Arm chips

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Post by AtlasBarfed »

ho_schi wrote: post #26
cjk2 wrote: post #7

Oh Dell, Windows and Qualcomm. I’d rather cut my hands off and shove the bloody stumps in a bag of salt. Have had nothing but trouble with all of them over the years.

I will not buy an device with ARM running Microsoft Windows. Ship it with Linux or we ignore it like the other devices with ARM. Windows isn’t built for ARM and the closed-source software isn’t running well or slowly on ARM. The reason to use Windows is that nothing changes and legacy software from 1988 runs like on MS-DOS. What did Qualcomm think when they signed a monopoly deal with Microsoft? That they will benefi…

I agree this is a prime moment for Linux on the desktop to shine, but so has the last 10 years of windows destroying its UI and backwards compatibility.

...I have no faith.

Re: Dell leak details next-gen Windows on Arm chips

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Post by cjk2 »

dannyw wrote: post #12
cjk2 wrote: post #7

Oh Dell, Windows and Qualcomm. I’d rather cut my hands off and shove the bloody stumps in a bag of salt. Have had nothing but trouble with all of them over the years.

YMMV. I have always had extremely pleasant, hassle-free, and fast support and warranty from Dell. It's not that their monitors or laptops fail more often, I've just been buying them for a decade.

4x dead $4000 machines in 2 years and then they leaked my personal details and downplayed it. They can get fucked.

Re: Dell leak details next-gen Windows on Arm chips

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Post by AtlasBarfed »

nerdjon wrote: post #42

We really are doing this "AI PC" thing I guess? I was really hoping we would just... not. Not looking forward to those ads being all over showing gimmick that most probably don't want. Hopefully we don't start seeing "AI PC Ready" parts for custom builds. Hopefully the LTSC version of Windows 11 doesn't have any of this crap in it. Also great, so the hardware will be fine. Still not convinced Microsoft can pull off A…

The only mass market ai application for the end user is probably deep fakes.
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