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Re: Buying Adobe Photoshop CS6

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Post by Aramgutang »

elithrar wrote: post #9
joelrunyon wrote: post #5

This seems like another arena that's incredibly practical, ripe for disruption and one of those "hard ideas" that PG talks about that people naturally shy away from, but has real market potential. Forget the next SoLoMo craze - who wants to disrupt Adobe? They need it. "Adobe is Lazy" - Steve Jobs ( http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/01/googles-dont-be-evil-... )

> Forget the next SoLoMo craze - who wants to disrupt Adobe? They need it. I agree. As a photographer, I use Lightroom and Photoshop for most of my post-processing needs. Lightroom, when it hit, barely felt like an Adobe application (it's great), but Photoshop has always been a nightmare of crashes. CS5 on OS X is especially bad. As an experiment, I tried to use (only) Lightroom and Pixelmator[1], which is the closes…

I couldn't agree more with the sentiment that Lightroom doesn't feel like an Adobe product because it just works so well (barring speed issues that crop up on some machines). The purchase process for Lightroom 3 a year or two ago, however, was a stark reminder of who I was dealing with.

I purchased an education license online, going through the convoluted student status verification process (which was incredibly unintuitive at times, e.g. I had to open a support ticket to request verification). After I put in the payment details, I was told that the purchase was successful, and that I should be expecting the license key in my e-mail shortly. Few weeks pass with no e-mail, and no indication that anything had gone wrong, so I called them up. Turns out they had never received the payment, and the representative on the phone actually made me go through my bank transactions to verify that the transfer didn't take place, rather than confirming it on their end. Finally, I just gave up and used a pirate version until the version 4 beta became available. I hope the process goes smoother when version 4 becomes available for purchase.

Re: Buying Adobe Photoshop CS6

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Post by mrinella »

My Photoshop CS6 Beta had expired as well. I followed the purchase link, signed up for the discounted $29.99 a month plan and followed the instructions in the confirmation email I received within a few minutes. I ended up downloading a new version of the Adobe Application Manager and then downloading a new (non Beta) copy of Photoshop CS6. This version gave me the option to sign in with my Adobe ID which immediately activated my copy. No serial number required. I think Adobe could make this process more clear than they have, but I can't fault them for delaying my activation.

Re: Buying Adobe Photoshop CS6

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Post by kamechan »

fallenhitokiri wrote: post #38
kamechan wrote: post #30

http://www.gimp.org/

Sadly Gimp is no alternative for people who want to buy Photoshop and Creative Cloud. While I agree that most private users and to some point professionals can also accomplish the same results in Gimp as in Photoshop stuff like Bridge, the Creative Cloud and all those tools around the core applications makes the suites so valuable for designers that just do not want to roll their own sync / management / foo solution…

it's very possible that gimp might not be able to cut it for a lot of creative professionals, especially if they already have a lot of process and money invested in the adobe stack.

it's definitely my experience that a lot of more of my professional/creative friends rely on photoshop than gimp.

with this latest push to 2.8, i'd say the gimp folks still have a bit of kick in them and it's hard to argue with their licensing strategy. since the latter is what the original article was addressing, offering up the gimp as a good alternative seemed prudent. and, possibly, if facing a situation where i couldn't get photoshop licenesed over the weekend, it seems gimp would do in a pinch.

Re: Buying Adobe Photoshop CS6

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Post by learc83 »

TwoBit wrote: post #22

Why on earth EA was voted worst company is beyond me. Actually I'm under the impression the Ballot boxes against EA were stuffed by religious groups unhappy with EA morality.

>Actually I'm under the impression the Ballot boxes against EA were stuffed by religious groups unhappy with EA morality.

From what I've read that didn't actually happen. EA spun it that way to make it look like they were the victims, and it appears to have worked.

Here's a forbes blog article about it http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/04/05/ea-in-full-d...

Basically the only proof that EA has is some anti-gay hate mail they received that has nothing to do with the poll. There are no indications that the people voting in the consumerist poll were some kind of anti-gay mob.

Re: Buying Adobe Photoshop CS6

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Post by corin_ »

georgemcbay wrote: post #36
droithomme wrote: post #15

Many years ago the number one page layout program was Quark Xpress. The company decided to save money by firing all their employees who developed the program and were familiar with the code base and save money by outsourcing all development to a code team overseas who was not familiar with page layout software or the Mac platform Quark ran on. This outsourcing team would appear on development boards asking extremely…

"Adobe in the last 5 years has now let go many of the core developers of their critical products and outsourced their key products to development teams overseas who were not familiar with the product or the fields of graphic design and illustration." I don't know if that's true, but even if I take your word that it is, this really has nothing to do with the OP's problem, which is order fulfillment and not the actual…

Arguably a company strategy of moving work from skilled people to unskilled people is likely to apply in more than one area of the company, and therefore could well explain problems such as a poor shopping experience.

Re: Buying Adobe Photoshop CS6

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Post by learc83 »

I'm about 90% sure that Adobe makes their software very easy to pirate in order to keep their monopoly. For CS4 and CS5 there were no cracks to install, just map the sites it uses to call home to localhost and enter a fake serial number. You could even run the updates. They could have very easily disabled this in an update, but they never did.

Businesses will still pay for it, and there isn't much room for competition in the individual/very small business/student market because it's hard to compete with free.

No one's really clamoring for a reasonably priced alternative b/c it's basically free.

Re: Buying Adobe Photoshop CS6

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Post by troymc »

callmevlad wrote: post #31

Not sure if it's just me, but I had absolutely no trouble going through the checkout process and just finished installing several of the apps. I was never asked for a serial number for Photoshop - it seems to be baked in if you install through their installer and log in with your Adobe ID. (Also, paying $30 per month vs $1900+ up front seems to be a hell of a deal.)

Same here. I signed up for Adobe Creative Cloud yesterday. Easy peasy.

The first step after getting a Creative Cloud subscription is to install the "Adobe Application Manager." With that installed, it's one click to install whatever Adobe app you want. There's no bothering with serial numbers.

Re: Buying Adobe Photoshop CS6

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Post by tomjen3 »

elithrar wrote: post #9
joelrunyon wrote: post #5

This seems like another arena that's incredibly practical, ripe for disruption and one of those "hard ideas" that PG talks about that people naturally shy away from, but has real market potential. Forget the next SoLoMo craze - who wants to disrupt Adobe? They need it. "Adobe is Lazy" - Steve Jobs ( http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/01/googles-dont-be-evil-... )

> Forget the next SoLoMo craze - who wants to disrupt Adobe? They need it. I agree. As a photographer, I use Lightroom and Photoshop for most of my post-processing needs. Lightroom, when it hit, barely felt like an Adobe application (it's great), but Photoshop has always been a nightmare of crashes. CS5 on OS X is especially bad. As an experiment, I tried to use (only) Lightroom and Pixelmator[1], which is the closes…

Considering that gimp is out as 2.8 now, and will properly hit 3.0 before this mythical competitor can be written, what does Photoshop have that Gimp doesn't?
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