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"Ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently"

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Re: "Ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently"

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Good job on the LTS, Canonical. I don't understand why they don't make the release cycle longer. Perhap 9 months or a year, or even just one additional month for QA. I first started using Ubuntu, and Linux, when 9.04 came out and it was great. Since then the quality has steadily declined. 9.10 was good too, but ever since 10.04 every release has sucked. They can't even do LTS releases right. Sorry for ranting, but th…

The real problem here is that the LTS cycle is synched with the six-month release cycle; so the LTS is simultaneously a "new" six-month release. It might make sense to say that the Even.04 releases are the "LTS beta" or maybe even the "LTS RC", and then make the real LTS release be Even.07 or so.

The real LTS is called Even.04.1. Isn't it common knowledge that Ubuntu is often unstable in the first couple of months after each release?

Re: "Ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently"

#42

Works fine here. As always, hardware support is tricky.

Not only that, accelerated 3D video hardware is as tricky as it gets. Hats off to the open source developers who attempt it, often having to reverse engineer some of the most complex hardware known to man. Am I missing some context here? Why is a nouveau driver crash front page news?

It's not a nouveau crash -- the bug report has reports from people using ATI OSS, nouveau, intel, and nvidia blob drivers (at least).

Re: "Ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently"

#45
post #26

Maybe this is me not paying attention much lately... How can a bug like this end up being specific to a distro? Aren't the distros effectively just different package managers, different init conventions, and maybe some system management sauce? The overwhelming majority of the operating system is just: kernel + modules, GNU, X, and a window manager, isn't it? So how can a bug like this be specific to Ubuntu?

It's not just a collection of software, every distro patches the apps on their repositories in a different way

Re: "Ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently"

#46
I made the mistake of importing Compiz settings that I was using in 10.04 and 11.04 in an attempt to make Ubuntu more usable. It made it completely unusable.

KDE with nVidia's binary works for me. Everything with Gnome 2, 3 and Unity has been flickering whenever I move a window and window decorations like to disappear.

Early adoption of LTS and LTS^ releases is never and increasingly a bad idea.

Re: "Ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently"

#47
post #22

Good job on the LTS, Canonical. I don't understand why they don't make the release cycle longer. Perhap 9 months or a year, or even just one additional month for QA. I first started using Ubuntu, and Linux, when 9.04 came out and it was great. Since then the quality has steadily declined. 9.10 was good too, but ever since 10.04 every release has sucked. They can't even do LTS releases right. Sorry for ranting, but th…

First of all, LTS is no real LTS prior to the .1-release. All LTS-releases had serious issues at first, as far as i remember even dapper drake. Which is not even really harmful for an LTS, since corporations had no need to upgrade as soon as possible from the last LTS. Furthermore, the story of the declining release-quality was also said about 7.04 (pulseaudio was the issue, if i remember correctly), and edgy prior,…

> Which is not even really harmful for an LTS, since corporations had no need to upgrade as soon as possible from the last LTS.

Not only that, but Ubuntu doesn't give you the option to upgrade until .1 is available. Trying to upgrade my 10.04 boxes reports that there's no new distribution yet.

Re: "Ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently"

#48

Hmm, lots of anecdotes and complaining here. I've experienced no issues of the sort. Running perfectly smoothly here on 12.04, 64-bit. And I'm on a 4-year-old Pentium Dual Core machine, of all things.

Same here, but with an even older computer: AMD 64 4000+ with compiz turned off and running LXDE on the desktop. No issues so far and I haven't had any crashes at all.

Re: "Ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently"

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post #13

I had a lot of issues when I upgraded to 11.04 which is why I'm avoiding upgrading to 12.04. From the looks of it, it seems like a wise decision

I went from 10.04 straight to 12.04, and frankly for the most part I couldn't be happier.

Only caveat for me is that I'm one of the weirdos that preferred the Nautilus spatial mode, and that's gone.

Re: "Ubuntu 12.04 completely freezes frequently"

#50

Hmm, lots of anecdotes and complaining here. I've experienced no issues of the sort. Running perfectly smoothly here on 12.04, 64-bit. And I'm on a 4-year-old Pentium Dual Core machine, of all things.

I did not read through all of the posts, but it appears to be related to nVidia hardware. I'm guessing that you are not using an nVidia card.

On a side note, I gave up nVidia hardware altogether (about 4 years ago) because of endless issues with Linux (and macs). This thread isn't encouraging.

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