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Windows 10 share increases while Windows 11 share decreases

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Re: Windows 10 share increases while Windows 11 share decreases

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ssl-3 wrote: post #20
Log_out_ wrote: post #11

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The beach head is already there, steam deck. All it takes is one gaming generation growing up with freedom..

Are most Steam Deck users even aware that there's a Linux and some userland under the hood, or is it just a portable game console to them (as an Android phone is just another pocket computer)?

Most are quite aware. Desktop Mode is needed for certain tasks like installing additional software or browsing the web, and it's just KDE Plasma. Also you sometimes need to wrestle with Proton versions and some games with anticheat don't work in Proton, so the average Deck user is pretty aware of what they're running. There's a big culture of tweaking things to run better or use less battery or be more convenient (plugins to make changing game art easier, especially important for non-Steam games you add which have no art set by default).

I could be in a bubble, but it seems like even the less technical Deck owners can at least follow Reddit or YouTube tutorials (of which there are many) to do more advanced things on their Deck. Setting up emulators is one of the more common things people do.

The OS also comes up in comparisons to competing PC handhelds, as the marginally more powerful alternatives all seem to come with Windows and suffer in the UX department. Valve allegedly plans to release their current SteamOS version for others to use, but it hasn't happened yet. There are a couple third party recreations in the meantime that people put on these other devices themselves.

Re: Windows 10 share increases while Windows 11 share decreases

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Post by hulitu »

pathartl wrote: post #39

I like Windows 11. Windows 10 feels old in comparison, especially with many system settings living in Control Panel. I use a dev drive, I like my dark mode notepad and taskman, I love having a modern Terminal and winget, and frnakly I pay for Microsoft 365 because it's a pretty good value for the 5 other family members I've got on it. RE: any arguments about ads and such... I don't see what's an ad? I disable copilot…

> Windows 10 feels old in comparison

Having a proper "copy" and "paste" in the right click menu in Explorer (or whatever is left of it) is "old". /s

Re: Windows 10 share increases while Windows 11 share decreases

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Post by pathartl »

hulitu wrote: post #42
pathartl wrote: post #39

I like Windows 11. Windows 10 feels old in comparison, especially with many system settings living in Control Panel. I use a dev drive, I like my dark mode notepad and taskman, I love having a modern Terminal and winget, and frnakly I pay for Microsoft 365 because it's a pretty good value for the 5 other family members I've got on it. RE: any arguments about ads and such... I don't see what's an ad? I disable copilot…

> Windows 10 feels old in comparison Having a proper "copy" and "paste" in the right click menu in Explorer (or whatever is left of it) is "old". /s

I didn't like it when they first changed it, but I'm used to it now. Is it better? Nope. Is it worse? A bit. Worth writing off an entire OS? Nope.

Re: Windows 10 share increases while Windows 11 share decreases

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Post by pathartl »

NBJack wrote: post #40
pathartl wrote: post #39

I like Windows 11. Windows 10 feels old in comparison, especially with many system settings living in Control Panel. I use a dev drive, I like my dark mode notepad and taskman, I love having a modern Terminal and winget, and frnakly I pay for Microsoft 365 because it's a pretty good value for the 5 other family members I've got on it. RE: any arguments about ads and such... I don't see what's an ad? I disable copilot…

Let's assume that Microsoft continues their path, and eventually makes it impossible to disable ads (or at least plays whack a mole as a game of attrition, increasing the necessary effort to the point the commjnity gives up). Would you continue to like it?

As long as enterprise exists, I don't know that what you're proposing is an eventuality. Regardless, if it truly gets to the point where you can't disable it, no, I would look for options to switch. Not because of ads, but because that is a fundamental shift in the design of the product. Windows is very much designed to be poked and prodded and modified. Not being able to run your own software or heavily customize your OS makes it not Windows anymore.

Yes I am aware of RT. There's a reason it didn't survive. Yes, I understand what S mode is. It's also not the default install method for many devices, and you can disable it.

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