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Elon Musk fires Tesla's entire supercharger team

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Re: Elon Musk fires Tesla's entire supercharger team

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Post by BobaFloutist »

elcritch wrote: post #22
ra7 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This happens to almost every post that’s somewhat negative about Tesla. They mysteriously disappear from the front page within minutes even after getting a lot of engagement. I’m pretty sure some nefarious flagging is happening and I hope dang takes a look at it.

HN’s ranking algorithm penalizes potential flamebait stories as I understand it. If you watch, you’ll see stories with more comments than points will quickly fall off the front page.

No, it's clearly a conspiracy to make Tesla look better on a niche forum. Enemy action is the only possibility.

Re: Elon Musk fires Tesla's entire supercharger team

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Post by brutus1213 »

anonymousab wrote: post #21
pie420 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, maybe 10-15 will need to be rehired at double salary. It should be an incredibly formalized process in terms of building new superchargers. Maintaining old superchargers likely requires only 4-5 managers and 40-50 technicians globally, although they might be contractors. Building out a new supercharger is likely incredibly formalized, with permiting, design, architecture, and electrical work all done via thrid p…

That may all be true, if you want to throw away the quality reputation that the superchargers built up and let the chargers and related travel experience sink as low as it is for the alternatives today.

I was seriously contemplating a Tesla when my current cars need to be replaced. The crazy stories I have been reading over the last few years really concern me. For an expensive purchase like a car, I want the most "boring" and reliable thing. The whole .. lets delete parts and add them back in .. seems crazy for a car (or rocket!!) company to do.

Re: Elon Musk fires Tesla's entire supercharger team

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Post by ummonk »

thegrim33 wrote: post #32
ra7 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This happens to almost every post that’s somewhat negative about Tesla. They mysteriously disappear from the front page within minutes even after getting a lot of engagement. I’m pretty sure some nefarious flagging is happening and I hope dang takes a look at it.

I usually flag posts like these after a scan through the comments, as even though the article is tech related, the comments on this type of topic are usually uninsightful, 90% of the time just being typical political/social echo chamber warfare, an excuse for people to post low quality comments shitting on the persona non grata, in this case, Elon. These types of topics on HN usually accomplish nothing other than inc…

Why can’t you just flag the comments you don’t like instead of suppressing a relevant story?

Re: Elon Musk fires Tesla's entire supercharger team

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Post by peutetre »

vishalontheline wrote: post #10
nightshadetrie wrote: post #9

I wonder if someone on their team angered Elon, or if it’s just related to a new strategy. Elon will properly rehire those he needs from the team via extra compensation as needed.

Tesla's charging standard is now the standard that everyone's going to use. There are other companies building out chargers. Demand for EV's in general seems to be dropping, so Tesla's EV's will be the biggest beneficiaries of new EV chargers built by everyone else. Given all of that, Tesla no longer needs to be in the supercharger game.

> Tesla's charging standard is now the standard that everyone's going to use.

No, Tesla's charging standard is dead.

Everyone in North America is going to use CCS with Tesla's plug. The plug is now standardized as SAE J3400. It's CCS type 3.

Older Teslas will need a retrofit to be able to talk CCS.

Re: Elon Musk fires Tesla's entire supercharger team

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Post by grakker »

The article starts with "Elon Musk has shut down the division that runs Tesla’s Supercharger business, dismissed two senior executives and fired hundreds more staff as the electric-car maker continues its restructuring amid a sharp downturn in the EV market."

I was thinking, "sharp downturn in the EV market?" So I looked up some stats and found "US EV sales reached 1,119,251 in 2023, up from 760,329 in 2022, 462,247 in 2021, 245,586 in 2020, and 230,761 in 2019."

There's no "sharp downturn". It's just people getting fed up with a fascist spokesperson, a product that has looked dated for years now, and better options available. I wish we still had decent journalists.

Re: Elon Musk fires Tesla's entire supercharger team

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Post by [deleted] »

pie420 wrote: post #17
nightshadetrie wrote: post #9

I wonder if someone on their team angered Elon, or if it’s just related to a new strategy. Elon will properly rehire those he needs from the team via extra compensation as needed.

Yep, maybe 10-15 will need to be rehired at double salary. It should be an incredibly formalized process in terms of building new superchargers. Maintaining old superchargers likely requires only 4-5 managers and 40-50 technicians globally, although they might be contractors. Building out a new supercharger is likely incredibly formalized, with permiting, design, architecture, and electrical work all done via thrid p…

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Re: Elon Musk fires Tesla's entire supercharger team

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Post by archagon »

nightshadetrie wrote: post #9

I wonder if someone on their team angered Elon, or if it’s just related to a new strategy. Elon will properly rehire those he needs from the team via extra compensation as needed.

This would be foolish to rely on. If you throw an entire division in the trash, some of your critical employees won’t return at (almost) any price.
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