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It’s just such a shame all 8 billion earthlings are so addicted to food!
It doesn't need to be produced through the incredible wasteful in-between animal. People can either eat straight up plant-based food, or alternatively go for lab grown meat. There's no need to go through all the inefficiency and suffering of factory farms.
H5N1 prevalence in milk suggest US bird flu outbreak in cows is widespread
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#42Id hazard a guess that live virus contact with people on scale is what — by chance — eventually selects a cross over strain. So virus that can be cultured into existence of out of milk presents a possible vector for that. Hence they are testing to see if they can grow the virus from milk samples.
mixing milk dramatically increases these chances. If each person drinks milk from one cow, and there are 1 million of each, then you have 1 million chances. A chance is higher if a cow has a few mutations in its viruses, or if a person has a slightly different receptor or immune system... But if you put all the milk from the 1 million cows in a mixing vat and then distribute it to the same 1 million people, now there…
There is no live virus in the milk.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s just such a shame all 8 billion earthlings are so addicted to food!
It doesn't need to be produced through the incredible wasteful in-between animal. People can either eat straight up plant-based food, or alternatively go for lab grown meat. There's no need to go through all the inefficiency and suffering of factory farms.
I haven’t looked to see if studies have been done to look at the nutritional profile of lab grown vs normal meat. I’d be curious about that as well before I tried it.
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There's more alt-milks than I can count. While cow's milk obviously is used to produce other things, we can drastically reduce the need for it by moving to other kinds of milk for the liquid-consumption part.
Which of those alt milks are produced using biodiversity supporting practices? Oat? Soy? Almond?
https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/press-release/our-glob...
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
It doesn't need to be produced through the incredible wasteful in-between animal. People can either eat straight up plant-based food, or alternatively go for lab grown meat. There's no need to go through all the inefficiency and suffering of factory farms.
Are you vegan?
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's more alt-milks than I can count. While cow's milk obviously is used to produce other things, we can drastically reduce the need for it by moving to other kinds of milk for the liquid-consumption part.
Which of those alt milks are produced using biodiversity supporting practices? Oat? Soy? Almond?
Re: H5N1 prevalence in milk suggest US bird flu outbreak in cows is widespread
#47Hopefully no viral particles capable of infecting humans will be found. We’ll know soon though.
They confirmed there is not live virus in the milk capable of replication. Just remnants after pasteurization.
- "The researchers expect additional lab studies currently underway to show that those samples don’t contain live virus with the capability to cause human infections"
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
mixing milk dramatically increases these chances. If each person drinks milk from one cow, and there are 1 million of each, then you have 1 million chances. A chance is higher if a cow has a few mutations in its viruses, or if a person has a slightly different receptor or immune system... But if you put all the milk from the 1 million cows in a mixing vat and then distribute it to the same 1 million people, now there…
The virus is killed by pasteurization. There is no live virus in the milk.
Re: H5N1 prevalence in milk suggest US bird flu outbreak in cows is widespread
#49Is there a significant chance of a human crossover stemming from this cow outbreak? Are the influenza virus targets in cows similar to those of humans, that adaptations for one host would be useful for the other? Is the large population size (millions of cows) worrisome for viral evolution, with the high cumulative volume of mutations? Do governments not consider mass culling an option here, the way they routinely ap…
The real worry is pigs.
If it makes its way to pigs, we are in trouble. From what I understand, pigs contain a mix of avian and human receptors that make them the ideal mixing ground for crossover. Cows do not.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's more alt-milks than I can count. While cow's milk obviously is used to produce other things, we can drastically reduce the need for it by moving to other kinds of milk for the liquid-consumption part.
Alt milks are usually ultra processed and quite unhealthy compared to regular milk. Not sure this is a viable alternative.