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April 24 is JavaScript Naked Day – Browse the web without JavaScript

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Re: April 24 is JavaScript Naked Day – Browse the web without JavaScript

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Post by olliej »

bee_rider wrote: post #40
Springtime wrote: post #12

With Javascript disabled the aspect that is a pet peeve isn't some broken functionality of a site (which one would expect) but when a considerable amount of sites add a blank overlay until JS and/or cookies are enabled. And not the scenario where JS is responsible for loading the content but literally when it's just an arbitrary blank viewport-encompassing element covering the already loaded content—all so the site c…

They don’t want you there, they are poorly designed sites, and you are better off leaving them.

No, JS is part of the web. You wishing it was not does not mean it isn’t.

A site isn’t broken if it doesn’t work without JS anymore than it’s broken if you disable TLS or CSS or any other part of the web.

Re: April 24 is JavaScript Naked Day – Browse the web without JavaScript

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Post by bee_rider »

olliej wrote: post #41
bee_rider wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don’t want you there, they are poorly designed sites, and you are better off leaving them.

No, JS is part of the web. You wishing it was not does not mean it isn’t. A site isn’t broken if it doesn’t work without JS anymore than it’s broken if you disable TLS or CSS or any other part of the web.

I didn’t say it was broken, I said it was poorly designed.

The internet is decentralized. I won’t tell you that you have to ignore the parts that have been infected by JavaScript nonsense, but you’ll be happier if you do.

Re: April 24 is JavaScript Naked Day – Browse the web without JavaScript

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Post by thih9 »

skydhash wrote: post #27
thih9 wrote: post #11

> The web should work without JavaScript. Says who? Perhaps popular platforms like twitter or instagram should support UX based on texting instead of requiring apps. Perhaps emails should be readable plaintext and without images. I could go on. I love all of these ideas in theory; but in practice the ship seems to have sailed - and in a different direction. I guess it's a mixture of primordial enshittification and ol…

The only time that javascript is required are when you need some element that is stateful accross data loading (maps, audio player, chat,…) or the action would return essentially the same data with a few difference (voting, autocomplete). There are also some components still missing from the web spec like carrousel (you can probably do some css wizardry) and a calendar widget. But the current state that wants us to d…

> But the current state that wants us to download js files that are bigger that the epub format of War and Peace? Not essential.

Absolutely essential if you want to deliver a large, extensible website (requiring teams of front end and back end devs) with modern UX in a cost efficient way.

Re: April 24 is JavaScript Naked Day – Browse the web without JavaScript

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Post by difosfor »

difosfor wrote: post #5

Next up: CSS naked day? Seriously though, I respect the ideal of using HTML as much as possible for what it's made. But the web is more than just pure content sites. And Javascript provides a lot of nice things as well.

Ah, haha, CSS naked day was actually first? I do have to admit that most of what I do on the web is consume content and there most JS like analytics and ads is useless to me. So I guess I might actually try NoScript for a day after all.
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