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Unpopular opinion: I'm really not keen on Riley using Delta as a key driver to make EU folk pay for the AltStore. I'd much, much rather get it from the Apple App Store, just like everyone else on the planet--and I'd pay Eur 4.99 for it there, easy, just because I really don't want the hassle of dealing with another App Store.
Can someone give me examples of good apps other than emulators?
I think by design of the ecosystem it makes the most sense for apps that can't be on the main store. That would be emulators, uncensored social media, probably apps that do not meet the NSFW policy of the App Store... that kind of thing. I'm not sure we'll see user-enabling apps for proprietary services like newpipe, because it's still a store, so corporate censorship is to be expected. In that sense, it is far infer…
Unfortunately paying Apple’s extortion fee might provide ammo to legitimize it.
Someone ends up paying Apple either way. On the App Store, that person usually ends up being the developer. With the new framework (stupid as it may be), developers can choose to externalize that cost to users and make an example of how ridiculous it is. With high-demand apps like emulators, it's easy to attract users and directly expose them to the limits Apple imposes on them. That's a great vehicle for change, and…
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That's a shame. It's just free software, there should be no reason why you can't just put it on your phone if you have the code and want to approve it. Maybe Apple should re-draft the App Store conditions to better accommodate Free Software if this is the sort of business they'd like to attract. If not, oh well, it's only the users that have to suffer. > I'll just wait until RetroArch (or someone else) ships on iOS.…
You must be new to mobile, and Apple, and notarisation. I can build and install it myself, but even with a developer account it's a hassle. The key problem with iOS app distribution isn't alternate app stores--it's enabling end users to run their own apps on their own devices without timeouts or jumping through hoops, and nobody seems interested in fixing that.
The creator of Delta is pushing the first regulation-protected route they have for distributing their app. You started this thread saying you wish they didn't.
Dealing with notarization, timeouts, yearly developer account subscriptions, it's all terrible. The only hope to ever get away from it is to put up with as little of it as possible, which currently means an alternative app store. Or you can stop buying Apple devices.
Can’t wait to have to download 20 different marketplaces with UX all uglier than the last
More discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40067556
Seems this requires an AppleID. So is there no way to sideload without one?
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Knowing Apple I'd personally be concerned about retribution from them. I feel like something else completely unrelated on my device will stop functioning because I'm a user of the app store.
But you'll never be able to prove it Like my iPhone 12 getting slower and worse battery with each iOS release even with a new battery...
How many apps are there?
Two. Delta the emulator, and a clipboard manager. I assume there will be a few more soon, though Apple still pushes for notarization and such, making things difficult for the lone hacker developing for fun. So I don't expect as many apps as once cydia had. It's pretty cool that I can play Chrono Trigger and Pokemon FireRed Rocket Edition on the go though :) I'd love to see Epic bringing Fortnite to AltStore out of sp…
What does “Apple approved” mean? I know Apple has heavy handed curation, for example requiring various forms of moderation / censorship of social media apps. Can these stores offer whatever they want? Also what’s with that fee? Why aren’t phones forced to operate like traditional operating systems? Apple shouldn’t be allowed to charge fees for people to install software on devices they own.
They are operating like traditional operating systems, namely like game consoles where paying royalties to OS makers for distributing software has been a thing since the Atari/Activision settlement in 1980.