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SeaMonkey All-in-One Internet Application Suite

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Re: SeaMonkey All-in-One Internet Application Suite

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I really like the concept of SeaMonkey, but the project needs some major UI updates and way more love to be relevant today.

This definitely no. The reason i use it is the UI. Firefox, Chrome, Edge UI is a mess, a disgrace of UI design. I had to edit the user.css to get scrollbars at reasonable width.

i agree. why fix something that's not broken :D

Re: SeaMonkey All-in-One Internet Application Suite

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to work for a company owned by Apollo - if its the one i'm thinking of...and if so then "corporate raider from the 80s" is putting things mildly. Those guys really were the type to squeeze every ounce of value of any org without remorse for the future or without thinking of the long-term value that an org could produce.

I currently work for a company owned by Apollo, and nothing about Apollo has changed.

My sympathies, and I certainly hope you are not negatively impacted by their crappy decisions!

Re: SeaMonkey All-in-One Internet Application Suite

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's Apollo group. a corporate raider from the 80s who now owns aol's and yahoo's empty shells.

I used to work for a company owned by Apollo - if its the one i'm thinking of...and if so then "corporate raider from the 80s" is putting things mildly. Those guys really were the type to squeeze every ounce of value of any org without remorse for the future or without thinking of the long-term value that an org could produce.

I'm pretty sure AOL and yahoo had self inflicted the value extraction long before these guys came on board

Re: SeaMonkey All-in-One Internet Application Suite

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I really like the concept of SeaMonkey, but the project needs some major UI updates and way more love to be relevant today.

Strong agree. Concept sounds great. The UI looks like something out of 2005 and that's just not okay. It simply cannot be relevant while looking like that and updating its UI would not have to cause any loss in functionality. It's honestly a waste of time for devs to be working on something that looks like that, since you're cutting out half your audience.

Re: SeaMonkey All-in-One Internet Application Suite

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post #24

I really like the concept of SeaMonkey, but the project needs some major UI updates and way more love to be relevant today.

This definitely no. The reason i use it is the UI. Firefox, Chrome, Edge UI is a mess, a disgrace of UI design. I had to edit the user.css to get scrollbars at reasonable width.

Having scrollbars of reasonable width is not antithetical to having a UI that looks like it was made after 2006. You could easily have something that looks like Chrome and has a larger scrollbar. You could go for a different look, just not one that literally looks ancient.

Re: SeaMonkey All-in-One Internet Application Suite

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post #24

I really like the concept of SeaMonkey, but the project needs some major UI updates and way more love to be relevant today.

This definitely no. The reason i use it is the UI. Firefox, Chrome, Edge UI is a mess, a disgrace of UI design. I had to edit the user.css to get scrollbars at reasonable width.

I had a look into this because I became curious because the scrollbars are definitely sometimes annoying. Turns out that they removed the ability to edit Custom.css and do stuff like this in 2014. I wonder if there's another way to do that now? Haven't been able to find out.

Re: SeaMonkey All-in-One Internet Application Suite

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or those could be precisely the reasons that would kill it for good. Putting AI tech in every product is not a good idea, just riding the hypetrain.

Isn’t the hype over yet and established technology now? Having an assistant in an all-in-one suit is factually better than most single use AI products. Reading and answering the chat and emails, coding, browsing, scraping, botting… actually a good platform to pretending being a human.

I'm afraid the hype is still rising very much, and a very large percentage of AI products are snakeoil, or barely functional PoCs, that are hyped up for a quick cash grab.

Re: SeaMonkey All-in-One Internet Application Suite

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I stuck around using it for longer than I probably should have. The integrated chat and mail clients were useful. The HTML editor not so much, and didn't appear to get much attention. One of the main things I miss is the LCARSTrek theme by KaiRo. Unlike any other LCARS browser theme, I found it to be usable on a day to day basis. Sadly it isn't available for Firefox. https://www.kairo.at/download/mozskins

> The HTML editor not so much, and didn't appear to get much attention.

I highly recommend SeaMonkey's HTML editor to anyone who would otherwise be tempted to write HTML in MS Word.

It doesn't have a ton of features, but the webpage will be readable both in rendered and in source form.

I used to use it heavily when creating MS Help .chm (Compiled HtMl) helpfiles.

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