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The forgotten war on beepers

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Re: The forgotten war on beepers

#41

The policy at my school was that any "electronic device," be it a cellphone or pager, would be confiscated and held until the end of the school year. I had this happen to a (not yet modified) Radio Shack tone dialer.

> confiscated and held until the end of the school year. How things like that were even remotely legal?

The underlying legal theory is that schools are 'in loco parentis' and can establish rules while the students are entrusted to the school by the parents.

Re: The forgotten war on beepers

#42
it's important to note that the fake panic over beepers is not related to the current concerns that kids shouldn't be on their phones all day long and at school. The former is a "fake moral panic" based on the premise that all kids were doing / selling drugs. the latter is a concern regarding mood/attention/bullying/self-esteem well established by statistics and experts (though not all experts, it's hotly debated. For parents with kids, not so much debate as it's extremely obvious).

The article refutes this: "months later The Washington Post editorial board would call on schools to ban cellphones entirely - part of a new moral panic about kids and digital devices, "

There's no "moral" panic about devices right now and this is straight up strawman. it's about mental health and learning.

Re: The forgotten war on beepers

#43

The policy at my school was that any "electronic device," be it a cellphone or pager, would be confiscated and held until the end of the school year. I had this happen to a (not yet modified) Radio Shack tone dialer.

> confiscated and held until the end of the school year. How things like that were even remotely legal?

Typically it's to the end of the school year OR until a parent comes to get it.

Re: The forgotten war on beepers

#46
Nobody was arrested for pagers at my school, but both pagers and cell-phones were minimum 3-day suspension on first offense and expulsion for repeated offense -- larger minimum punishments than bringing a knife.

Re: The forgotten war on beepers

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In the late 1990s, my dad attended night classes with other adult learners to earn his MBA. Everywhere he went during those years, my dad had a beeper clipped to his belt for an on-call hospital rotation. During his first week of class, my dad's beeper loudly went off during the middle of the lecture. As my dad scrambled out of the lecture hall to call the number on the little screen, the professor accurately guessed…

As an “enterprise” developer in the 80’s, we all had beepers to go along with our suits and ties. People often thought we must be doctors, but we were just corporate mainframe developers.

Re: The forgotten war on beepers

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post #42

it's important to note that the fake panic over beepers is not related to the current concerns that kids shouldn't be on their phones all day long and at school. The former is a "fake moral panic" based on the premise that all kids were doing / selling drugs. the latter is a concern regarding mood/attention/bullying/self-esteem well established by statistics and experts (though not all experts, it's hotly debated. Fo…

Seriously, talk to a teacher about dealing with cell phone use in class. A friend relayed a story to me recently of a parent (whose child is constantly on their tablet during class) who had the audacity to respond to teachers' complaints by saying their child "shouldn't be punished for their [internet] addiction."

There's no reason kids should be on smart phones during the school day at all. The only "panic" is from parents who are terrified of being more than ten seconds away from contact with their child.

Re: The forgotten war on beepers

#50
My late father owned a small commercial radio business for a few decades. It provided sales, install, repair, and repeater service to primarily public safety groups and companies with a fleet of vehicles. A more consumer oriented side to his business was pagers through Metrocall.

A major drug dealer in our region was a kid in my high school. He leased a pager from my dad's company. During the investigation, authorities had my dad create a cloned pager. They could then record all pages sent to the drug dealer, about 6k in as many months, to track his activities and build their case.

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