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Re: Tailscale SSH is now Generally Available

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Why does Tailscale need special handling for SSH?

Tailscale gives you authorized connectivity between hosts, and DNS; won't it be sufficient to run plain sshd?

(If wireguard-key-level auth were sufficient, even rlogin or netcat would be enough, because the transport is encrypted already.)

Re: Tailscale SSH is now Generally Available

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post #43

Why does Tailscale need special handling for SSH? Tailscale gives you authorized connectivity between hosts, and DNS; won't it be sufficient to run plain sshd? (If wireguard-key-level auth were sufficient, even rlogin or netcat would be enough, because the transport is encrypted already.)

Tailscale ssh is handling authentication for you so that you do not need to pass around authorized_keys to all hosts. :)

It means you can configure/activate/deactivate peoples access centrally too.

Re: Tailscale SSH is now Generally Available

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post #43

Why does Tailscale need special handling for SSH? Tailscale gives you authorized connectivity between hosts, and DNS; won't it be sufficient to run plain sshd? (If wireguard-key-level auth were sufficient, even rlogin or netcat would be enough, because the transport is encrypted already.)

Tailscale doesn't need special handling for SSH. You can run your plain old sshd just fine.

Tailscale comes with an additional SSH server, which runs in parallel with your other SSH server. It does use Wireguard keys directly, so effectively you don't need to manage keys.

Additionally, this SSH server is implemented in userspace, so it won't (can't) interfere with anything else on your system (like your other sshd).

Re: Tailscale SSH is now Generally Available

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post #43

Why does Tailscale need special handling for SSH? Tailscale gives you authorized connectivity between hosts, and DNS; won't it be sufficient to run plain sshd? (If wireguard-key-level auth were sufficient, even rlogin or netcat would be enough, because the transport is encrypted already.)

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Re: Tailscale SSH is now Generally Available

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Just gonna note this is still a thing https://ssotax.org/

I don't get what's wrong with charging more for SSO? They're in the business of making money, and if you need SSO and you need their service you're more likely to have money. It's nothing to do with the feature itself.

If you're storing passwords for the non-SSO option then you're hurting yourself as well as your customers, because storing passwords is a massive security and operational headache. If your limited SSO options, before charging the SSO tax, are "social" (e.g. Google) logins, then you're letting BigTech in between you and your customers.

I'm all for price discrimination, but SSO is the exception, because the alternative is too expensive.

Re: Tailscale SSH is now Generally Available

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post #43

Why does Tailscale need special handling for SSH? Tailscale gives you authorized connectivity between hosts, and DNS; won't it be sufficient to run plain sshd? (If wireguard-key-level auth were sufficient, even rlogin or netcat would be enough, because the transport is encrypted already.)

It is about using SSO and tagging to auth the users.

So for example you could have instances tagged with {users} that cannot ssh to certain boxes, but other users tagged with {admin} that can. All these users can be part of your tailnet.

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