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Re: Half of Ireland's young people have low level of mental wellbeing

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Post by negamax »

ToucanLoucan wrote: post #27
negamax wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By law all new developments are required to have 20% social housing. And google search will show you the extent of corruption and free money that goes hand in hand source: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/law-change-to-make-... Also city councils run a large stock of social housing where tenants pay nothing and live for generations

Literally in the headline of the source you linked states 20% are affordable or social housing, not all social housing. And a ten second google about what "social housing" means as I'm not Irish and don't know, tells me that social housing is not, in fact, free and is instead adjusted rent based on your ability to pay. I suppose it's not impossible that some of it is free, since some people may not be able to pay any…

Have you heard of HAP? Please read up on it. It's budget and impact on the everyday person. It's a roundabout way to giving free housing to people who don't work by taking money from people who do.

End result is a broken and inflated marketplace

Re: Half of Ireland's young people have low level of mental wellbeing

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Post by paulette449 »

incomingpain wrote: post #2

Ireland is in a very bad spot right now. They are in a deep recession, over a year of gdp contraction. Later this month we find out last quarter's gdp reduction and if it's -0.6% or worse, Ireland moves from recession to depression. Which I will be shocked to see if they achieve anything better. Ireland's housing crisis: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/15/world/europe/ireland-hous... Overall Ireland is in a bad spot…

Shrinking GDP, yes, likely to move from technical to actual recession, sure, but "in a deep recession" is factually incorrect [1]:

"Ireland officially fell into recession last year as multinational exports slumped in the face of weaker global demand but the domestic economy still managed to grow, aided by stronger-than-expected consumer spending. Central Statistics Office (CSO) figures published on Friday show the economy as a whole shrank by 3.2 per cent in GDP (gross domestic product) terms in 2023. The CSO noted that the more globalised sectors of the economy, including the multinational-dominated “Industry” sector, contracted for the first time since 2013. This was “driven largely by a fall of 4.8 per cent in exports,” the agency said. The figures show the economy was effectively in a technical recession for the entirety of 2023 with GDP contracting in all four quarters. The domestic economy as measured by modified domestic demand (MDD), a more reliable barometer of domestic activity, grew by 0.5 per cent on the back of a 3.1 per cent increase in consumer spending. Consumer spending was underpinned by strong employment growth with figures published last week showing a record 2.71 million people are now employed in the economy. Incomes also rose in real terms by 3.3 per cent, the CSO said. Worryingly, however, MDD contracted by 0.4 per cent in the final quarter of last year on the back of a fall-off in private-sector investment. Another quarterly contraction would turn Ireland’s technical recession into a real one."

[1] - https://www.irishtimes.com/business/2024/03/01/recession-con...

Re: Half of Ireland's young people have low level of mental wellbeing

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Post by anotherhue »

negamax wrote: post #24
turndown wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean let’s be honest adults here - a 300B national debt is literally nothing. Not even worth discussing in a post or even acting like it’s a problem. Ireland ran a 4 billion euro deficit last year; again this is meaningless. You can dislike these policies you mentioned(on whatever basis…) but let’s not act like Ireland is burning here or something

What are you talking about? Ireland's population is mere 5M. That's €60K debt for each soul. And over €200K debt for a family. What does Ireland has to show for all this debt?

Emigrants.

Re: Half of Ireland's young people have low level of mental wellbeing

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Post by throwaway55671 »

circlefavshape wrote: post #26
negamax wrote: post #8

Ireland should be an international study about how a state destroyed itself by running a gigantic welfare state despite all of world's money pouring into it Almost €300B national debt. Government is giving free houses, money to people who don't work. It's the only relatively wealthy European country with unlimited dole. And people make a lifestyle out of living on welfare forever. This is despite huge corporation tax…

How has the state destroyed itself? Most of the debt is from the bank bailouts during the 2008 financial crisis (debt quadrupled between 2007 and 2013) > Government is giving free houses, money to people who don't work [...] and people make a lifestyle out of living on welfare forever This is just the usual blah blah moaning about welfare states in general. What do you mean by "unlimited dole"?

Free houses sounds very unlimited to me.

Re: Half of Ireland's young people have low level of mental wellbeing

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Post by basisword »

goalonetwo wrote: post #6

We also don't talk enough about the mental impact of living in one of the worst weather on the planet. Every other day is rainy, dark and foggy.

You don't have to move very far to see a meaningful difference either. The difference in weather between the north of Ireland and the south of England is staggering. The proper summers there largely make up for the miserable winters. No so in Ireland sadly. It sounds mad but the wonderful English weather is one of the main things that would stop me moving back to Ireland.

Re: Half of Ireland's young people have low level of mental wellbeing

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Post by OJFord »

bilekas wrote: post #12

Having left Ireland over two years ago I can say that the quality of life is simply awful there compared to many other European locations. I love my country and I was paid exceptionally but at every turn there is an extra overhead or increase in price accomodation is simply disgusting in Dublin, the weather is laughed about being a factor but when you're stuck indoors 80% of the year it has a big effect on your menta…

> Add to that the real growing problem of petty and violent crime in the city.

No kidding, I couldn't get my head around the recentish riots at all - child killed; immigrant comes to others' aid; everyone starts rioting; supposedly anti-immigrant, but involves mainly attacking police and burning public infrastructure...

Not that I'd support that kind of political action anyway, but at least make some kind of sense, do correctly targeted rioting?

Re: Half of Ireland's young people have low level of mental wellbeing

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Post by bongodongobob »

JasserInicide wrote: post #22
goalonetwo wrote: post #6

We also don't talk enough about the mental impact of living in one of the worst weather on the planet. Every other day is rainy, dark and foggy.

I would love to live in that climate but that's not where the high-paying tech jobs and somewhat-affordable housing are. Instead I have to be in a climate where it's a blistering 105F for 3 straight months (arguably equally as depressing).

You have no idea what lack of sunlight does to a person. Cloudy and dreary every day is far more depressing than sunshine all the time. Try it.

Re: Half of Ireland's young people have low level of mental wellbeing

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Post by throwaway55671 »

romafirst3 wrote: post #29
negamax wrote: post #8

Ireland should be an international study about how a state destroyed itself by running a gigantic welfare state despite all of world's money pouring into it Almost €300B national debt. Government is giving free houses, money to people who don't work. It's the only relatively wealthy European country with unlimited dole. And people make a lifestyle out of living on welfare forever. This is despite huge corporation tax…

What are you talking about ? The only failings I see with the Irish model is they don’t go far enough in some areas. I’d like to see the healthcare system expanded for example. Per captia they are extremely wealthy. Have free education including third level. No student debt. Are extremely educated. Very low crime (including a tiny murder rate). Very low homelessness (although pressure has increased on the system in t…

> They frequently rank highest on happiness measures

If half of young people have low levels of mental wellbeing, perhaps the composite average indicator is not so useful.

Re: Half of Ireland's young people have low level of mental wellbeing

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Post by superb_dev »

negamax wrote: post #8

Ireland should be an international study about how a state destroyed itself by running a gigantic welfare state despite all of world's money pouring into it Almost €300B national debt. Government is giving free houses, money to people who don't work. It's the only relatively wealthy European country with unlimited dole. And people make a lifestyle out of living on welfare forever. This is despite huge corporation tax…

Why don’t people deserve free housing? We need it to fucking live, it’s essential
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