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Please don't let gaming consume your life

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Re: Please don't let gaming consume your life

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Server died...here's a repost: Over this past weekend a good friend and coworker passed away. He always had a good heart and would do anything he could to help you out. It was certainly a shock. Monday morning he didn't show up to work. He always calls or sends an email if he won't be in but nobody could get a hold of him. I got a bit worried since I knew he was playing Diablo 3 since it came out on Tuesday and I've…

How is him having a heart attack in any way related to him playing video games all weekend?

Re: Please don't let gaming consume your life

#42

Server died...here's a repost: Over this past weekend a good friend and coworker passed away. He always had a good heart and would do anything he could to help you out. It was certainly a shock. Monday morning he didn't show up to work. He always calls or sends an email if he won't be in but nobody could get a hold of him. I got a bit worried since I knew he was playing Diablo 3 since it came out on Tuesday and I've…

How is him having a heart attack in any way related to him playing video games all weekend?

It isn't. We can infer from the rest of the post that the person in question was unhealthy, but OP took an unnecessary shot at gaming. One can argue an unhealthy focus on anything can kill you in the same way, and gaming wasn't a symptom.

Frankly, this entire thread is about as bad as mass media blaming video games when a kid shoots up his school.

Re: Please don't let gaming consume your life

#43
Echoing others' sentiments in this thread: I don't see the link between video games and the man's death being all that strong here. I can understand if sharing details of his health isn't something meant for the internet, though, and I am sorry for your loss.

As someone who spent the majority of their teenage years "gaming" (6 hours per day average in an MMO), and despite benefiting socially and financially (you read that right) from it all, I have since quit and become a bitter ex-gamer. I speak with that hat on when I say that this is not an article about gaming and its personal costs. I could write such an article, but it's been done before, and you just end up preaching to the choir. Instead, this is an article about the loss of a friend. We always wish we could have spent more time with friends who have passed, regardless of what their hobbies were.

To close, I will share the reason behind my own transition. It boils down to one simple notion:

Do you want to spend your days living in a world someone else created? Or do you want to build your own?

Re: Please don't let gaming consume your life

#44
post #17

Not knowing anything about this individual I don't want to make too many assumptions but the broader point here is valid. The whole culture of 'hardcore gaming' is pretty creepy to me. There's a fine line between fun and mental illness. It's too easy to look at this as just a harmless eccentric hobby when, past a certain point, it really needs to be treated more like a serious problem with interventions & rehab. I re…

s/hardcore gaming/competitive horseback riding/d s/hardcore gaming/competitive Go playing/d s/hardcore gaming/dedicated Iron Man competition training/d s/hardcore gaming/frequent weekend get-away-ing/d s/hardcore gaming/dedicated volunteering/d Perhaps I'm not familiar with the hardcore gaming you've seen, with exception, perhaps, of WoW addiction, but you need to be careful of looking at a particular use of a person…

Well two differences... one only applies to some of those things. In the case of all of the physically active ones they to some extent self-regulate. There is really only so much power-lifting you can do in a week, and very few ways around that max (even assuming steroid use)

But I think the more relevant issue is far fewer people seem to be prone to obsession in any of those other spheres. It's not that hardcore gaming is any worse than an obsession with chess, it's that far fewer are obsessed with chess.

I found this article (which came off of hacker news in the first place) to be super relevant. http://www.paulgraham.com/addiction.html

Re: Please don't let gaming consume your life

#45
Having spent way more time than is healthy playing WoW I realized one day, after I had spent 12 hours collecting virtual materials to make virtual armor so that I could go with folks into a simulated environment without dying so that I could get other armor that would replace the armor I had made, that there were much better ways to spend a Saturday.

The challenge of course is that it is so damn easy. And by that I mean that one of the things video games have over programming (what I had previously spent 12 hrs on a Saturday doing for fun) was that in the game everything is set up so that you can get right toward making progress against your goal, and you can stop, and then come back later and get right back into it. From power up to 'engaged' was like 3 minutes, vs programming which seemed to have an hour just to get to the point where everything was in shape to work on it.

Since that time, I've been trying to make programming as easy as gaming in that regard. Things like 'screen' can help since you can pop right back into a session, everything is setup your cd path is current, as is your history etc) and stuff like picking one editor and using it everywhere helps too. A USB keyboard is essential because switching between Macbook keyboard to desktop keyboard can generate a lot of mistyped keys. Finally there is the 'questing' system, where in the game you log in and the quests you have to complete are sitting there in a list with a short note about what needs to be done. I use a notebook for that but it has the same effect. Open up the notebook to the book mark and the things that need doing are highlighted and circled, stuff that is done is lined out.

I'm still not there yet, work to do. But I am long past being 'hardcore' in WoW.

Re: Please don't let gaming consume your life

#46
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the subtext was that his sedentary lifestyle is what killed him.

But how much of that was actually tied to games? Maybe I'm being needlessly nitpicky but I didn't even notice the comment about lifestyle as I first read the article, tucked away near the end.

That's the point. It's an unnecessary shot at gaming, which is why the fact that the person was unhealthy is near the end.

Re: Please don't let gaming consume your life

#48
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to feed the addiction, but that's pretty much exactly what SpaceChem does. You're programming, without programming. And you have some very clearly defined limits, letting you be remarkably creative with your solutions. Now then, that doesn't apply well to a real world problem, but there are definitely parallels.

I love SpaceChem! Fantastic game...though when I'm playing it, I think "I should just be programming instead." If only SpaceChem had more freedom and could actually create code.

Spacechem is essentially dataflow programming. Unfortunately the canvas size is to small to do general purpose computing. If you could have a lot lot more reactors, then you could encode useful data in the molecules and use the pipelines as queues to simulate memory buffers and, well, obviously queues.

Re: Please don't let gaming consume your life

#49
I used to be a gamer but then I realized something. While gaming is fun, sometimes fulfilling and a source of "flow" it's ultimately without higher meaning. Imagine spending hundreds of hours playing WoW, DI:3 or whatever, now imagine what you could have done with that time.

It's better to game your life than spending your life gaming. I Enjoy gaming in certain amounts,prefer gaming over TV, but prefer creating, socializing and learning over gaming.

Re: Please don't let gaming consume your life

#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you actually think the game was related to his death? If enough people play video games an hour a week it's guaranteed that some of them will die while playing. I understand that he was marathoning this game but that shouldn't cause a heart attack.

Agreed. Excessive video game playing over many years may have contributed towards decline in health and eventual heart attack, but not a 3-day sprint.

Who knows 3 days without sleep puts a huge strain on your body and your heart.
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