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Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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This feature of TOTP auth is universal afaik.

Nope. They need to implement it server-side.

There is some pretty surprising service that doesn't support this, the moment it disappears from your phone the code is no longer valid. It might be Microsoft if you're not using MS's auth app? Like I said I forget which one it is so I always just wait if I'm <5 seconds from expiry, but it is big enough that I was very surprised when it happened.

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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I hate how Twitch puts over a minute of pre-roll ads before you can start watching a stream. They should at least wait 60 seconds, I can't imagine how many people have chosen not to catch a new stream because they'd immediately have to sit through over a minute of ads before even getting to any content.

I think this is configurable on the streamer's end. I watch a lot of PirateSoftware and he's talked about how choosing to run ads at certain intervals vs running them before the stream starts affected his viewership levels. I don't immediately have a video of him saying that, but I imagine there's a YouTube short where he describes that. All things considered though, I think you are right that the option that forces…

I think that might depend somewhat on what the stream is. For instance I watch quite a bit of Zelda Ocarina of Time Randomizer race restreams on Twitch. For those it is much much better to have some up-front ads when I join the stream, which is almost always during the "stream starts in 15 minutes" countdown, rather than to have ads appear mid-race. I don't know how much control the streamer has over this kind of thing, though.

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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The annoyingness to relevance ratio of twitch ads might be the best of any video platform. I find about one in five interesting. By contrast, I can't recall a single time YouTube has shown me anything interesting, relevant, or useful (lucky if it's not a downright scam), despite probably having seen ~100x more ads on YouTube than on Twitch. I also appreciate that Twitch still displays the stream while ads play.

I've not had that experience. I just get the same Jack Reacher or Gillette ad over and over.

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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I hate how Twitch puts over a minute of pre-roll ads before you can start watching a stream. They should at least wait 60 seconds, I can't imagine how many people have chosen not to catch a new stream because they'd immediately have to sit through over a minute of ads before even getting to any content.

I've completely abandoned Twitch in part for this reason. I imagine they've lost a lot of viewers due to this but it seems like it's still far more profitable for them. A shame really.

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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It's incredible how much effort Twitch puts into bypassing adblockers, compared to how little effort they put into actually selling ad space. At any given time they have maybe 2 or 3 different ads in rotation, and they often resort to running ads for other Amazon services because they don't have enough real ad sales to fill the ad breaks. There was a months-long period where 95% of the ads I saw were one of two diffe…

There is surely some point of diminishing returns but the reason you see ads over and over, especially on podcasts, is that advertisers have found that people dont respond to an ad the first or 5th or 10th time you hear it. It's the xnth time you've heard it that you think huh maybe I could to do some manscaping.

Around the hundredth time I heard that kid say "Have you heard the one about the immortal lord of dreams?" I was ready to never subscribe to Audible purely out of spite.

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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post #27

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I always forget which services this works for and which ones it doesn't :)

This feature of TOTP auth is universal afaik.

If you set it up this way. An admin can choose not to or could allow e. g. 8 previous codes. That would allow four and a half minutes to put in any code of this timespan.

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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You'd think or hope they'd be tracking, A/B testing to see how this goes - and I wonder if incentives are perfectly aligned between Twitch's profits-costs and of the streamers they have to share ad revenues with?

The tracking is presumably extensive, but I would guess that the metrics are wrong. I would assume that Twich is optimizing for ad revenue , not engagement , entertainment , or utility .

It's a pretty classic case of a startup sacrificing profit for growth until they reach critical mass and move to maximizing profit. Twitch probably decided they were as big as they were going to get and are no longer focused on user growth.

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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post #45

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There is surely some point of diminishing returns but the reason you see ads over and over, especially on podcasts, is that advertisers have found that people dont respond to an ad the first or 5th or 10th time you hear it. It's the xnth time you've heard it that you think huh maybe I could to do some manscaping.

Around the hundredth time I heard that kid say "Have you heard the one about the immortal lord of dreams?" I was ready to never subscribe to Audible purely out of spite.

I really think this an under-appreciated or perhaps under-researched phenomenon that is becoming more and more prevalent. It isn't just that ads are everywhere at all times (though that is also awful for a buffet of reasons) but it's the same fucking ads, likely because I am being targeted by a set of them that I'm "likely to respond to" which I then prove wrong every single day. But hot shit, I have heard the fucking insipid jingle for Chumba Casino so many goddamn times that even if, for whatever insane fucking reason, I decided I wanted to gamble online, I wouldn't use their goddamn website with a gun to my head.

And I could say the exact same things for tons of ads I get on the regular. At least most podcast ads are just the host reading a blurb and that's generally fine, I don't engage with it but it isn't grating. Jingles are fucking grating. Idiotic "funny" skits are grating. I definitely find myself remembering these ads more than the other ones, but it's really not in the way I suspect the advertiser was hoping.

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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post #37

Haven't watched much twitch in the last 5-10 years, but Streamlink [0] still seems active, and was a really nice experience (before wide adoption of HTML5 video players) as a CLI and standalone media player enthusiast. [0] https://github.com/streamlink/streamlink

It doesn't look like Streamlink is immune to the challenges of Twitch ads: https://github.com/streamlink/streamlink/issues/4949

Re: TwitchAdSolutions – Blocking Twitch Ads

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post #14

The annoyingness to relevance ratio of twitch ads might be the best of any video platform. I find about one in five interesting. By contrast, I can't recall a single time YouTube has shown me anything interesting, relevant, or useful (lucky if it's not a downright scam), despite probably having seen ~100x more ads on YouTube than on Twitch. I also appreciate that Twitch still displays the stream while ads play.

I rarely get a relevant ad on Twitch, but Instagram has my number. I'd say at least 10% of those ads are ones that I find relevant/click on.
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