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TLDR: The company formerly known as rewind ai ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33421751 ) is going all-in on wearable devices up-to and including a label mic/pendant that will plug into a ton of AI services ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37744213 ). As a result, they're changing their name to limitless and also moving a ton of stuff off device and into the cloud.
Aren't there wiretapping laws that make recording conversations in certain situations illegal? I love the idea of this type of technology but it seems tricky to deploy from a moral and legal perspective.
That's why we are going to offer Consent Mode. Consent Mode makes it possible for the first time ever to only capture the voice of people who have given consent to be recorded. It uses voice identification to determine who is speaking and verbal opt-in to make it frictionless to ask for consent. Here's a direct link to the timestamp of the announcement where we show how Consent Mode works: https://twitter.com/dsiroke…
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I’m gonna doubt they’re operating AI on encrypted cloud data. In other words, there’s no technical reason they couldn’t be listening to your conversations. If these guys have accomplished homomorphic encryption they shouldn’t be building a wearable, they should be licensing their IP to Apple.
They're definitely marketing this as if they were Apple. If this takes off I'm betting on Apple buying them out.
Aren't there wiretapping laws that make recording conversations in certain situations illegal? I love the idea of this type of technology but it seems tricky to deploy from a moral and legal perspective.
That's why we are going to offer Consent Mode. Consent Mode makes it possible for the first time ever to only capture the voice of people who have given consent to be recorded. It uses voice identification to determine who is speaking and verbal opt-in to make it frictionless to ask for consent. Here's a direct link to the timestamp of the announcement where we show how Consent Mode works: https://twitter.com/dsiroke…
I might be jaded from years of bigco, and I'm rooting for you, hopefully you're already set enough financially you can ignore this, innovate, and already have teams of people demo'ing a solution internally:
As a company, you can't get trust back. Fudging a bit and projecting what you'll have when you ship is very tempting when the competition is this thick. Having this much competition also implies there will be choice, and given the use case, it's likely people will always opt for choices that appear more trustworthy.
On a completely separate note, I've seen many, many, teams of extremely bright people be funded for 2-4 years on things that you'd think "it can't be that hard..." and it turns out it's impossible. Not this specifically, but voice adjacent stuff.
Again, rooting for you, but a forthright version of me would have just said it'll never work as demo'd, and it's worth considering what impact it'll have long-term on your success if even just 20% of whats on the roadmap doesn't work out, you're already talking about it in present tense, and it's absolutely key to your user trust story. 20% is conservative in my experience.
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That's why we are going to offer Consent Mode. Consent Mode makes it possible for the first time ever to only capture the voice of people who have given consent to be recorded. It uses voice identification to determine who is speaking and verbal opt-in to make it frictionless to ask for consent. Here's a direct link to the timestamp of the announcement where we show how Consent Mode works: https://twitter.com/dsiroke…
So you record people without consent and pinky swear that your software will “unrecord” after the fact? I don’t know if you can just hand wave that away… ship has probably sailed on anyone enforcing these kinds of laws I guess, good luck
I sure as hell am NOT subjecting friends and family to being recorded and having those recordings going to some cloud I don't control.
Just this morning I got an email from AT&T about how they regret that my data was leaked but it's not so bad, sign up for this monitoring service. I have no choice but to use certain services. I can choose not to engage with this beautiful product.
Any data privacy experts here? Could someone explain how data encryption and decryption work here? https://www.limitless.ai/#privacy
Confidential Cloud is similar to end-to-end encryption, but with the added benefit of letting your personalized AI work for you even when you aren’t using the app. You control who can decrypt your data Your employer, we as software providers, and the government cannot decrypt your data without your permission, even with a subpoena to do so. Your data is anonymized There is an initial mapping from your application req…
Big fan of Rewind (despite the impact on battery life!). My favorite part of it is that everything is verifiably local. I'll take an inferior AI model to shipping recordings of everything I see/hear to someone else. Hard pass on Limitless. I don't care how good the encryption is, sending this kind of thing to anyone's cloud is a nope for me.
It's not. If you use the meeting summarization or querying features, the text transcripts are sent to OpenAI for LLM processing.
Aren't there wiretapping laws that make recording conversations in certain situations illegal? I love the idea of this type of technology but it seems tricky to deploy from a moral and legal perspective.
That's why we are going to offer Consent Mode. Consent Mode makes it possible for the first time ever to only capture the voice of people who have given consent to be recorded. It uses voice identification to determine who is speaking and verbal opt-in to make it frictionless to ask for consent. Here's a direct link to the timestamp of the announcement where we show how Consent Mode works: https://twitter.com/dsiroke…