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End of the Line? Saudi Arabia to scale back plans for desert megacity

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My thoughts are with the fellas who filled their coffers. Well done!

Yeah but I wonder is who signed off on this? Like, were they duped into it, or is it part of some bigger scheme? What is that scheme?

No one "signs off" on an absolute monarch's design.

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The only thing the Gulf states have going for them is oil money and a good hub location on the Europe–Southeast Asia airline routes.

Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Riyadh, Bahrain, Qatar, they all remind me of that quote from King of the Hill—they are monuments to man's arrogance. Desert cities hitting 50+ °C air temperature at midday which means air conditioning everywhere; vapid luxury in the form of expensive garish cars, shopping malls, and weird buildings and monuments, all while local chiefs who oppose stupid and unrealistic white elephant vanity projects are executed in the back alley.

This is one reason why I would like more nuclear power: it'll take some of the money away from the Gulf.

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> Hating jews never went out of fashion in the muslim world. Anti-semitism is a European invention that had to be imported to the middle east. One could argue it never went out of fashion anywhere.

There’s literal anti-semetism in the Old Testament, which predates anything that can vaguely be called Europe.

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I'm surprised not to see the article mention the previous report[1] about the three men who were sentenced to death, the killing of one, and the decades long prison sentences for others over their opposition to this project. Karmic justice requires this project to be crushed by the sand that these arrogant dictators tried to impose their steel dick over. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/03/un-rights-exp…

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Does this mean I might finally stop seeing adverts for it? Can we stop pretending it was ever even remotely viable?

> Can we stop pretending it was ever even remotely viable?

Not sure who this “we” is who ever started, which is a requirement for stopping.

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The only thing the Gulf states have going for them is oil money and a good hub location on the Europe–Southeast Asia airline routes. Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Riyadh, Bahrain, Qatar, they all remind me of that quote from King of the Hill—they are monuments to man's arrogance. Desert cities hitting 50+ °C air temperature at midday which means air conditioning everywhere; vapid luxury in the form of expensive garish cars, shop…

> Desert cities hitting 50+ °C air temperature at midday which means air conditioning everywhere

Couldn't that element be self-sufficient on solar?

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post #44

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> Hating jews never went out of fashion in the muslim world. Anti-semitism is a European invention that had to be imported to the middle east. One could argue it never went out of fashion anywhere.

There’s literal anti-semetism in the Old Testament, which predates anything that can vaguely be called Europe.

I'm puzzled by this... Isn't the old testament essentially the Torah? (This is an honest question, in case that needs clarifying)

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Yeah but I wonder is who signed off on this? Like, were they duped into it, or is it part of some bigger scheme? What is that scheme?

No one "signs off" on an absolute monarch's design.

> No one "signs off" on an absolute monarch's design

Nitpick, but MBS isn't the sovereign. His father is.

Given MBS isn't acting as regent, he's actually--in the most technical way--a tyrant: "the tyrant was Very Obviously but not formally in charge, because he ruled extra-constitutonally, rather than abolishing the constitution. This is what seperates tyranny, a form of extra-constitutional one man rule, from monarchy, a form of traditional and thus constitutional one-man rule" [1].

[1] https://acoup.blog/2023/03/17/collections-how-to-polis-part-...

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