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It's not what the world needs right now

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Re: It's not what the world needs right now

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Post by swatcoder »

mycologos wrote: post #36
swatcoder wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honesty is not what the author is going for here. This is genre autofiction following a throughline of slumming, marginal artists that carries back through punk, beat, flapper, and la boheme writers. It's entertainment, not true confession or activism, and it delights in getting under the skin of squares who can't tell. No need to push back on the people reactively criticizing the character or writer -- that's the po…

Deliberately making art that people think sucks seems like kind of a low bar?

Yeah, unless you can get the cool kids to think you're cool for doing it. This kind of art is a social game, not an technical craft.

Re: It's not what the world needs right now

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Post by hackable_sand »

mycologos wrote: post #36
swatcoder wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honesty is not what the author is going for here. This is genre autofiction following a throughline of slumming, marginal artists that carries back through punk, beat, flapper, and la boheme writers. It's entertainment, not true confession or activism, and it delights in getting under the skin of squares who can't tell. No need to push back on the people reactively criticizing the character or writer -- that's the po…

Deliberately making art that people think sucks seems like kind of a low bar?

We're meant to judge the character in the story, but the story might suck for some as well. I personally did a double take and skimmed the unimportant bits because I loathed the character.

Imo the story could have easily been a piece of poetry and I would probably have enjoyed it more.

Re: It's not what the world needs right now

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Post by antfarm »

lukan wrote: post #32
antfarm wrote: post #20

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Fewer snarky comments like yours maybe. I believe we won’t solve humanty’s pressing problems with more of the same. We need more love and understanding for sure.

Well, your comment literally said, "less of everything" " more love and understanding" Was not mentioned. So I am not sure how your first comment could help, to make the world a better place. "we won’t solve humanty’s pressinge problems with more of the same." And generic statements like these maybe neither. Because when people are hungry(many are), yes they need more food. More of the same. But your comment implies…

The world needs room temperature superconductors, yet here we are.

May I ask how room temperature superconductors make the world a better place or help fighting hunger?

And what do room temperature superconductors have to do with art?

Re: It's not what the world needs right now

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Post by dclowd9901 »

adamtaylor_13 wrote: post #13
thorum wrote: post #11

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Someone probably said the same thing to Van Gogh during his life.

Just because he beat the odds, doesn’t mean their advice was wrong.

Their advice wasn’t wrong. He never enjoyed any of the success or fame he has now. Not even a fraction of it.

The world was lucky to have Van Gogh, but Van Gogh was very unlucky to have this world.

Re: It's not what the world needs right now

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Post by [deleted] »

lukan wrote: post #32
antfarm wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fewer snarky comments like yours maybe. I believe we won’t solve humanty’s pressing problems with more of the same. We need more love and understanding for sure.

Well, your comment literally said, "less of everything" " more love and understanding" Was not mentioned. So I am not sure how your first comment could help, to make the world a better place. "we won’t solve humanty’s pressinge problems with more of the same." And generic statements like these maybe neither. Because when people are hungry(many are), yes they need more food. More of the same. But your comment implies…

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Re: It's not what the world needs right now

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Post by antfarm »

antfarm wrote: post #44
lukan wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, your comment literally said, "less of everything" " more love and understanding" Was not mentioned. So I am not sure how your first comment could help, to make the world a better place. "we won’t solve humanty’s pressinge problems with more of the same." And generic statements like these maybe neither. Because when people are hungry(many are), yes they need more food. More of the same. But your comment implies…

The world needs room temperature superconductors, yet here we are. May I ask how room temperature superconductors make the world a better place or help fighting hunger? And what do room temperature superconductors have to do with art?

Oh, and less food waste and global inequality definitely cures hunger better than room temparature superconductors.

Re: It's not what the world needs right now

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Post by IshKebab »

thorum wrote: post #11
jack_riminton wrote: post #5

I don’t think there’s a direct correlation between commercial and artistic value. But there has to come a point where people who create this kind of stuff realise they’re not Van Gogh. Top points for edginess though, I guess

Someone probably said the same thing to Van Gogh during his life.

Van Gogh wasn't Van Gogh. If by "Van Gogh" you mean "had the rare combination of skill and luck to be a successful artist within his lifetime".

Re: It's not what the world needs right now

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Post by lukan »

antfarm wrote: post #44
lukan wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, your comment literally said, "less of everything" " more love and understanding" Was not mentioned. So I am not sure how your first comment could help, to make the world a better place. "we won’t solve humanty’s pressinge problems with more of the same." And generic statements like these maybe neither. Because when people are hungry(many are), yes they need more food. More of the same. But your comment implies…

The world needs room temperature superconductors, yet here we are. May I ask how room temperature superconductors make the world a better place or help fighting hunger? And what do room temperature superconductors have to do with art?

Many many applications.

But cheap highspeed trains (floating on magnetic fields) come to mind as a means of easy transporation around the world.

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