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Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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Re: Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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Tbh I don't share the sentiment that the community appreciates long SW support. Otherwise we'd see Windows being recommended over Linux more often.

You mean Microsoft Windows which dropped support for Zen 1 with Win11 not even 5 years after Zen 1 was released? Meanwhile, Linux will still run on a 30+ year old CPU...

They said software support, not hardware support.

You can take a win 95 gui app and run it on windows 10 without issue. You can’t do the same on Linux.

Re: Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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It sure isn't what it used to be, but if you buy the right phone and make a few moderate compromises, it's still a great option. Installing crDroid on my OnePlus 9 Pro took half an hour, another half to install Magisk Delta with a few modules. The universal dark mode alone (Xposed module "DarQ") is worth the effort, but also the ability to clone apps, have proper clipboard sync, make full-system backups and customise…

Do you keep a factory image for your OnePlus 9 pro in case you want to restore it? If so, how do you go about doing that? After OnePlus decided to stop publishing factory images, I decided to stop buying their phones. It's a real shame, because they really do make some great stuff and prices are quite reasonable generally speaking. I used to buy a new OnePlus phone nearly every year. The OnePlus 6 was one of my favor…

I wasn't aware they stopped publishing them so I didn't back it up, but I can't say I really care for my use case. The only reason I'd need it is to resell the phone, but my plan is to use it until it's either broken beyond repair or backporting new Android versions becomes impossible, at which point nobody would buy it anyways.

I agree the OP6 is great (my girlfriend is still using hers), but I was still on my OP 3 like a year ago, until future ROM updates were deemed impossible thanks to Qualcomm binary blobs.

It's a real shame it's all over now. The OP 9 Pro was the last OnePlus phone made in their old way (or close to it) - not too expensive, well built, close to stock ROM, easy to reflash, decently repairable. Hopefully it lasts me as long as the 3 did because currently I don't see anything else like that on the market.

Re: Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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Does the Galaxy S series have headphone jacks as well?

No, but can't you use a USB-C earphone?

For some people, the ability to use wired headphones/earphones while charging has a lot of value. Additionally, some invest in quality earphones or IEM's and replacing those with the lower-quality limited selection of USB-C earphones is not desirable. Likewise with Bluetooth.

The 3.5mm audio connection is nowhere near dead yet.

Re: Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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>Given that ASUS has one of the worst software support commitments in the Android world [...] It started removing posts about bootloader unlocking in its ZenTalk forums. Which is why I never understood why Asus Zenfone kept being recommended on HN all the time when people asked for good android phones to buy. I thought this community appreciated long SW support. I think the people recommending it were not dogfooding…

> Why not go for something that has 5-7 years of SW updates like a Pixel or a S-series?

Or an iPhone. People love to hate on Apple, but they actually support their devices.

Re: Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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>Given that ASUS has one of the worst software support commitments in the Android world [...] It started removing posts about bootloader unlocking in its ZenTalk forums. Which is why I never understood why Asus Zenfone kept being recommended on HN all the time when people asked for good android phones to buy. I thought this community appreciated long SW support. I think the people recommending it were not dogfooding…

what good is SW updates on a pixel that can't even get cellular connectivity

Re: Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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>Given that ASUS has one of the worst software support commitments in the Android world [...] It started removing posts about bootloader unlocking in its ZenTalk forums. Which is why I never understood why Asus Zenfone kept being recommended on HN all the time when people asked for good android phones to buy. I thought this community appreciated long SW support. I think the people recommending it were not dogfooding…

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Re: Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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No, but can't you use a USB-C earphone?

Not while charging.

USB C to 3.5mm Headphone and Charger Adapter, 2-in-1 USB Type C to Aux Jack Dongle Cable with PD 60W Fast Charging

$8.99

I like headphone jacks too but I’m not going to pretend that this isn’t a solved problem.

Re: Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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>Given that ASUS has one of the worst software support commitments in the Android world [...] It started removing posts about bootloader unlocking in its ZenTalk forums. Which is why I never understood why Asus Zenfone kept being recommended on HN all the time when people asked for good android phones to buy. I thought this community appreciated long SW support. I think the people recommending it were not dogfooding…

Honestly, I switched from Pixel to Zenfone for the form factor.

Ever since the visor redesign with the Pixel 6, the Pixel series has been too big for my hands.

I do miss the great Pixel software though...

Re: Asus refunds Zenfone buyer for failing to provide bootloader unlock tools

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Tbh I don't share the sentiment that the community appreciates long SW support. Otherwise we'd see Windows being recommended over Linux more often.

You mean Microsoft Windows which dropped support for Zen 1 with Win11 not even 5 years after Zen 1 was released? Meanwhile, Linux will still run on a 30+ year old CPU...

Windows 10 support continues until October of 2025. Zen 1 will be 8 years old at that point.

It’s pretty much guaranteed that Microsoft will add an extended support period to windows 10. Windows 7 just left extended support last year.

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