The question I have is, why should your browser also be the interface to local AI models? Seems totally unrelated to be honest.
All I need is to do is block more ads.
Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in access to local AI models
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Re: Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in access to local AI models
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
But why use the web browser as local interface for it? Why not a separate, native application?
If my data is already in the browser (Sheets, Gmail, other websites to scrape) why have another app instead of doing the work in the browser?
While we're at it, why not shove our financial passwords etc. into our HTTP headers for every website we visit?
That would be awfully convenient. You'd never lose them or need to deal with another native application. Just open any web page that echoes all HTTP headers and then check your account balance.
Or maybe having a separation of concerns for different applications in a general purpose computer is worth the friction.
Re: Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in access to local AI models
#43Browsers are for browsing internet. So many of them are now turning into bloatware..
Opposite viewpoint: browsers are for much more than "browsing". It's been 10-20 years that browsers have become the only app many people ever use, on a computer. So they already almost do everything: video conferencing, instant messaging, editing documents, sending emails, image editors, video games, calendar management, etc So at this point, frankly, "running a local LLM" is a pretty minor feature compared to the en…
The video conferencing, messaging, document editing, and games are things browsers can load from an external source. That’s different than running it locally.
Re: Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in access to local AI models
#44Browsers are for browsing internet. So many of them are now turning into bloatware..
With the amount of synthetic content that is already on the internet, and with even more to come, I think we'll unfortunately need to find a way to automatically filter that content to only what is really relevant to us.
People are using AI to create incredible amounts of SEO content, to the point where just using Google to find something is becoming increasingly useless. If, on the other hand, you had an AI agent that automatically filtered out all of the noise, you could still find the real information you need. What would be even better is if the agent could learn about the things you find interesting, and the things you'd rather avoid.
Now the question is: do you want to have control over such agents and the data they need, or would you rather let some centralized entity manage them for you?
Re: Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in access to local AI models
#45What are any possible reasons to have some generative network pre-trained by someone else as a part of some proprietary software?
Re: Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in access to local AI models
#46Re: Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in access to local AI models
#47The question I have is, why should your browser also be the interface to local AI models? Seems totally unrelated to be honest.
So I can have an AI summarise the 5000 word essay the author used an AI to write?
No, but I'd like an LLM to filter out comments like yours and delete it before I read it.
Re: Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in access to local AI models
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Or sheep in wolf's clothing – like Arc.
Can you explain what you mean by this?
I think he meant to write wolf in sheep's clothing. It probably refers to their user-first marketing in contrast with their privacy issues and imminent enshittification to provide returns on VC money.
Re: Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in access to local AI models
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It makes it possible to do, in half an hour, tasks which were completely unnecessary to do before.
But why use the web browser as local interface for it? Why not a separate, native application?
Web browsers have become to Javascript what Emacs is to Elisp. It is an interactive, extensible, "everything application". The main difference is that right now, just about everyone with a computer uses a web browser.
Personally I prefer to use a separate, dedicated service to run my language models, and I bounce between a few clients for various things. One of them is a (local) web interface (open-webui).