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Kia recalls over 427K Telluride SUVs because they might roll away while parked

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Re: Kia recalls over 427K Telluride SUVs because they might roll away while parked

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Post by nradov »

scotty79 wrote: post #30
Tostino wrote: post #8

My 2020 Palisade rolled down a hill after I had parked it with my wife and dog still inside. It rolled over my leg and foot, and I had to go to the hospital. My wife had jumped from the passenger seat to the driver's to stomp on the brakes as it slammed into the car behind us. Transmission grinding away as it rolled down the hill. Could not recommend the experience less.

Sounds terrible. Doesn't it have a hand break or did it roll despite the handbreak?

Most new vehicles from all major manufacturers have electrically actuated push button parking brakes rather than handbrakes.

Re: Kia recalls over 427K Telluride SUVs because they might roll away while parked

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Post by hollywood_court »

These things are all over my town and surrounding area. I remember two of my neighbors buying them and paying $10k+ dealer markup and I just couldn’t understand why.

Kia’s and Hyundais are made in and around the area I live so you see them everywhere but I could never imagine owning one or paying a $10k+ markup.

I used to work for a Korean company that supplied parts for Kia/Hyundai. That experience combined with my years of managing an import repair shop means that the only brands of automobile that I would feel comfortable purchasing are Toyota/Lexus and Honda/Acura.

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Post by inhumantsar »

null0ranje wrote: post #25
jiqiren wrote: post #6

I was taught in drivers education (California) to always set my parking brake because popping out of gear while parked was a common issue. I hope Kia and Hyundai learn from this and get OTA updates working for everything.

> I was taught in drivers education (California) to always set my parking brake because popping out of gear while parked was a common issue. I was taught this as well, along with curbing my wheels. I have a young family member who was taught exactly the opposite -- setting the parking brake was "harmful" to the car somehow and not to do it. > I hope Kia and Hyundai learn from this and get OTA updates working for ever…

the emergency brake (what a lot of manual drivers call a parking brake) is not usually designed for constant use. esp in older models where the brake was cable-based.

if I lived on the west coast again or somewhere else with a lot of hills, I'd use it all the time along with curbing and leaving it in gear. I grew up on the flat prairie, parking on hills freaks me out

Re: Kia recalls over 427K Telluride SUVs because they might roll away while parked

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Post by proneb1rd »

doubled112 wrote: post #20
vvillena wrote: post #17

Why do people rely on automatic gearboxes to keep cars in place? Trusting the "park" position is like leaving a manual gearbox car in gear: it can do the job, but it's not the right tool for the purpose. The handbrake is there for a reason.

I use both in a manual. Cheap insurance. Handbrake, and in gear in case the handbrake fails. But I’ve never seen the driver of an automatic set the parking brake. Never. That gear is “park” so they use it when they park. Only driving manuals, I have to really remind myself not to in somebody else’s car because it is probably going to stick as a result of never being used.

I think I witness that VW automatically engage the electronic handbreak as the driver opens the door while the stick is in parking position.

Re: Kia recalls over 427K Telluride SUVs because they might roll away while parked

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Post by thatfrenchguy »

hollywood_court wrote: post #42

These things are all over my town and surrounding area. I remember two of my neighbors buying them and paying $10k+ dealer markup and I just couldn’t understand why. Kia’s and Hyundais are made in and around the area I live so you see them everywhere but I could never imagine owning one or paying a $10k+ markup. I used to work for a Korean company that supplied parts for Kia/Hyundai. That experience combined with my…

> used to work for a Korean company that supplied parts for Kia/Hyundai. That experience combined with my years of managing an import repair shop means that the only brands of automobile that I would feel comfortable purchasing are Toyota/Lexus and Honda/Acura.

To be fair, as someone who’s owned a 2000 ICE and a 2020 EV Hyundai, they have really upped their game.

Re: Kia recalls over 427K Telluride SUVs because they might roll away while parked

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Post by javagram »

null0ranje wrote: post #25
jiqiren wrote: post #6

I was taught in drivers education (California) to always set my parking brake because popping out of gear while parked was a common issue. I hope Kia and Hyundai learn from this and get OTA updates working for everything.

> I was taught in drivers education (California) to always set my parking brake because popping out of gear while parked was a common issue. I was taught this as well, along with curbing my wheels. I have a young family member who was taught exactly the opposite -- setting the parking brake was "harmful" to the car somehow and not to do it. > I hope Kia and Hyundai learn from this and get OTA updates working for ever…

> I have a young family member who was taught exactly the opposite -- setting the parking brake was "harmful" to the car somehow and not to do it.

I knew a friend who was also convinced of this somehow. It seems to be a common myth that it’s an “emergency” brake despite the car manual and drivers ed calling it a parking brake and stating it should be used each time, even on an automatic.

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Post by tomku »

null0ranje wrote: post #25
jiqiren wrote: post #6

I was taught in drivers education (California) to always set my parking brake because popping out of gear while parked was a common issue. I hope Kia and Hyundai learn from this and get OTA updates working for everything.

> I was taught in drivers education (California) to always set my parking brake because popping out of gear while parked was a common issue. I was taught this as well, along with curbing my wheels. I have a young family member who was taught exactly the opposite -- setting the parking brake was "harmful" to the car somehow and not to do it. > I hope Kia and Hyundai learn from this and get OTA updates working for ever…

> setting the parking brake was "harmful" to the car somehow and not to do it

And this is exactly how people end up with a parking brake that's rusted in place and useless, which they'll discover at the worst possible time. Surreal to hear that's being taught to new drivers as a good practice.

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Post by nytesky »

inhumantsar wrote: post #40
nytesky wrote: post #32

Are the new electronic emergency brakes susceptible to bugs or are they dead simple so unlikely to fail too? The article talks about a faulty parking brake and that users should engage emergency brake. These are not the same thing I take it?

the parking brake is what gets engaged when you put a vehicle with an automatic transmission into park. the emergency brake is separate. usually a handle in the centre console or a small pedal on the left side of the driver side footwell.

I’ve driven newer rental cars where the emergency brake was engaged by a button on the console. They call it brake hold I think. Can this fail from software bug?

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/brake-hold-button-car/

Re: Kia recalls over 427K Telluride SUVs because they might roll away while parked

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Post by jvolkman »

scotty79 wrote: post #36
doubled112 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use both in a manual. Cheap insurance. Handbrake, and in gear in case the handbrake fails. But I’ve never seen the driver of an automatic set the parking brake. Never. That gear is “park” so they use it when they park. Only driving manuals, I have to really remind myself not to in somebody else’s car because it is probably going to stick as a result of never being used.

When I turn off Toyota hybrid it engages parking break automatically. Why wouldn't it? Is it possible for modern car to be off in neutral?

My Pacifica does this as well. Shifting to park also engages the parking break.
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