Wow, great demo! Excited to see this grow.
Launch HN: Aqua Voice (YC W24) – Voice-driven text editor
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#42You’re early and this is effectively a demo but just in case this is a blind spot: “token” is an in-the-weeds LLMism that means nothing in the context of transcription. Your costs may be measured in tokens but that’s not relevant to customers. Just “A free trial” with no quantifier would be better than 1k tokens.
This is a great point and a topic I’ve been thinking about myself. As more LLM services pop up that are subject to token/consumption pricing, what is the right pricing model for consumer based consumption products like this?
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#43This was such a well executed demo. A few seconds in and I'm seeing the value. The core of the product is fully explained in just 36 seconds. It's less about how quickly all that transpires and more about presenting the product in a way that doesn't require a lot of talking around it. Well done.
I agree, very well spent seconds. Straight to the point and immediately obvious what the product is doing and how useful it could be.
My first thought, when reading the headline, was that this could be useful for my coworker that got RSI in both hands and codes using special commands to a mic. But after having watched it I think it can be much more than such a niche product.
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#44I developed an RSI-related injury back in 94/95 and have been using speech recognition ever since. I would love a solution that would let me move off of Windows. I would love a solution allowing me to easily dictate text areas in Firefox, Thunderbird, or VS code. Most important, however, would be the ability to edit/manipulate the text using what Nuance used to call Select-and-Say. The ability to do minor edits, repl…
You should check out cursorless… it may be more directly targeting your use case
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#45You’re early and this is effectively a demo but just in case this is a blind spot: “token” is an in-the-weeds LLMism that means nothing in the context of transcription. Your costs may be measured in tokens but that’s not relevant to customers. Just “A free trial” with no quantifier would be better than 1k tokens.
This is a great point and a topic I’ve been thinking about myself. As more LLM services pop up that are subject to token/consumption pricing, what is the right pricing model for consumer based consumption products like this?
Price based on value. Pricing is hard, something as simple as per-token is alluring because it doesn’t require any thought but it’s leaving a lot of money on the table. There’s nothing unique about LLMs when it comes to pricing, all common pricing wisdom applies.
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#46I use Apple dictation heavily for transcribing interviews. I've tried all the voice-to-text services out there and none have been reliable enough *at transcribing an audio file. I've settled on playing audio in my headphones and pausing while I carefully dictate text into a document. If I could upload the audio file, get a first-pass transcription, and then go through and edit / make corrections with voice, that would be awesome.
A difference in error rate from 20-something percent down to less than 5 percent sounds incredible.
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#48Things like this always remind me of this excellent talk:
https://youtu.be/8SkdfdXWYaI?si=MFxs7wFdqws0OeCi
Worth a watch.
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#49I developed an RSI-related injury back in 94/95 and have been using speech recognition ever since. I would love a solution that would let me move off of Windows. I would love a solution allowing me to easily dictate text areas in Firefox, Thunderbird, or VS code. Most important, however, would be the ability to edit/manipulate the text using what Nuance used to call Select-and-Say. The ability to do minor edits, repl…
I remember being in a conversation back in 2002 or so, where some Smalltalkers were brainstorming over the idea of controlling the IDE and debugger with voice.
It just so happens, that many of the interfaces one has to deal with are somewhat low bandwidth. (For example, many spend most of their time stepping over, stepping into, or setting breakpoints in a debugger.) Code completion greatly cuts down the number of options to be navigated second to second. It seems like the time has arrived for an interactive voice operated AI pair programmer agent, where the human is taking the "strategic" role.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a great point and a topic I’ve been thinking about myself. As more LLM services pop up that are subject to token/consumption pricing, what is the right pricing model for consumer based consumption products like this?
Price based on value. Pricing is hard, something as simple as per-token is alluring because it doesn’t require any thought but it’s leaving a lot of money on the table. There’s nothing unique about LLMs when it comes to pricing, all common pricing wisdom applies.
That seems challenging to do with a writing/note taking app like this. First, what would the pricing tiers be based on? Word count? That would just be another way of saying token. Number of documents created? That puts you at risk of long unprofitable documents. Google Sheets doesn’t really have this problem because the incremental cost of storage is relatively cheap. Tokens on the other hand are not cheap.
How do you price based on value without a corollary to tokens? If you charged $40 for this service then maybe you don’t provide enough value for the casual user who does the occasional school report. On the other hand you may be unprofitable for the doctor that decides to dictate all of her interactions every day or the author who dictates an entire book.