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Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud

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Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud

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I recently watch: Unplugging the Debugger - Live and postmortem debugging in a remote system - Matt Keeter [1] The talk was at the Open Source Firmware Conference. Pretty cool look into how their system works under the hood. [1] https://vimeo.com/877092565

I am unspeakably biased, but I love this talk from Matt!

Its a great talk. I had to laugh when the guy asked 'why not gdb'. Matt answer was very diplomatic, I could imagine you would have gone on some kind of rant :)

Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud

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Is this a rebrand? I don’t remember it being called a “cloud computer”. (Or why else is this on HN?)

Yeah, I didn't remember this kind 'branding' message before either...(it was servers?).... but the marketing changed slightly when they hit a milestone 4 months ago.... Bunch of discussion then: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38023891

Probably makes sense when teams have to sell that kind of buy to their managers.

We are not just buying servers, we are buying 'cloud'.

Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud

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Curious if oxide is considering a 1-2U product. Feel like there is a larger potential customer base there but it also seems like they would lose the edge they built by owning the full rack. (I.e. integrating with customer TORs and network fabric is a nightmare.)

Not at the moment, but never say never.

OxidePad Laptop product based on Helios with NeWS Window System. When?

Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud

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Are there any videos or screencasts of one of these in operation? I’d love to see a fresh out of box to up and running walkthrough similar to what VMWare produced for Tanzu. It’s such a niece thing that lots of tech people who’d be really interested will never get to play with one but it seems there’s not much material out there.

The console is open source, and you can try a demo of it in your browser https://console-preview.oxide.computer/ https://github.com/oxidecomputer/console I also wrote up a blog post walking through me setting up a server by hand: https://steveklabnik.com/writing/using-the-oxide-console You can also use the API, there's a terraform provider, etc.

>The console is open source, and you can try a demo of it in your browser >https://console-preview.oxide.computer/

That's pretty cool! The design language is a nice touch for sure.

Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud

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post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do not purchase hardware, but $1MM is way above what I would have expected. Going to Dell, the most expensive pre-built rack mount starts at ~$30k. Assuming 16 of those only gets you to $480k. Throw in an extra premium for the rack itself + small company margins still leaves me reaching to get to that price point.

Are you sure you're comparing equivalent memory and storage specs? I needed to go into the customization menus in the Dell configurator to spec something equivalent, where prices started going up quite rapidly. For example "3.2TB Enterprise NVMe Mixed Use AG Drive U.2 Gen4 with carrier" is $3,301.65 each, and you'd need 10 of those to match the Oxide storage spec -- already above the $30k total price you quoted. Simi…

> For example "3.2TB Enterprise NVMe Mixed Use AG Drive U.2 Gen4 with carrier" is $3,301.65 each

That’s the pricing for people who don’t know to ask for real pricing — it’s an absolute joke. I don’t know how might extra margin gets captured here, but it’s a lot.

Even in teeny tiny volumes, Dell will give something closer to real pricing, and a decent heuristic is that it’s at least 2x cheaper.

This is a real SSD. Dell likely buys this brand and others:

https://www.serversupply.com/SSD/NVMe/30.72TB/KIOXIA/KCMY1RU...

Yes, that is almost an order of magnitude cheaper per TiB. If you buy from a sketchier vendor, you’ll get all the way to 10x :)

Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You were never their target audience. There is never one price off the shelf pricing for this kind of hardware

Grift pricing denotes a grift. If there's no price then the price is made up.

Enterprise pricing is absolutely a grift, but one where the grifted and grifters are promoted when they fall for the grift.

Re: Oxide Cloud Computer. No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The specifications page [1] gives a bit more context. I think minimum buy is about a half rack, which includes at least 16 64-core CPUs, 16 TiB of RAM, and 465.75 TiB of NVMe SSD storage. Playing around a bit with the Dell server configurator tool, it seems like that is going to come in a rough ballpark of $1MM as stated in a sibling comment. [1]: https://oxide.computer/product/specifications

I do not purchase hardware, but $1MM is way above what I would have expected. Going to Dell, the most expensive pre-built rack mount starts at ~$30k. Assuming 16 of those only gets you to $480k. Throw in an extra premium for the rack itself + small company margins still leaves me reaching to get to that price point.

$480k + switches + management + support + virtualization licenses + integration - it adds up. It will also probably take you at least 3x as long. I can think of lots of examples where this premium for apple-like ux is totally worth it
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