You can take figma out of adobe but you can't take adobe out of figma.
Figma removed `window.figma` on view-only pages today
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Re: Figma removed `window.figma` on view-only pages today
#42Penpot is great, free, and doesn't rat** you. Oh and it's made by a kickass collective. That is where I went when I binned Figma.
Penpot is great! It works really well, and the UX design is solid. Except for the few times I tried it, it ground to a halt after a couple hours and ten frames, crashing the tab when trying to do common things like add a text object (which can't be transformed into a path yet btw, rip). Oh well, must be something wrong with my browser...
Re: Figma removed `window.figma` on view-only pages today
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, different market really. Afaik, Sketch is still macOS only.
Mac is required for designing, which in pratice most designers are using in the vast majority of organizations, so it's not really an issue. For feedback and handoff the web tool is free and works in any OS that has a browser. https://www.sketch.com/handoff/
Didn't know Sketch did cross-platform hand-off nowadays.
Yet, I still don't believe "most" designers use Sketch, except in some "niches" like startups for example, or really design-heavy industries. Probably differs wildly by country too. What I've seen used most in the wild is Figma and Adobe tools, a lot of times on Windows.
Re: Figma removed `window.figma` on view-only pages today
#44It's a bit selfish, but this kind of behavior motivates me against recommending good things to my peers. Whenever I like something a lot, I'm now afraid of sharing it, because the sooner it becomes successful, the sooner it will enter the enshittification phase and become worse.
For non-FOSS things like Figma I agree, but for FOSS things, forks save you from that, e.g., OpenSearch and OpenTofu.
Re: Figma removed `window.figma` on view-only pages today
#45Figma’s dev mode was just a way to take existing functionality and gate it behind a higher price point under the guise of “new functionality”. As a developers i found it simpler to access css from figma via the old inspect vs. having to toggle in and out of dev mode. It is shady to take a commonly used feature and move it behind a higher tier after years of offering to people already giving you money. Just classic VC…
They were hella spammy about devmode too, spamming me with marketing mail about it and denying it was marketing. Shady
mark it as spam, it hurts their spam score a lot when users do so, and if it gets bad enough services (like gmail) will stop delivering it to inboxes
Re: Figma removed `window.figma` on view-only pages today
#46So this is the enshitification stage of Figma? Weren’t they already profitable? They should be ashamed to switch from product excellence to vendor lock in.
No such thing as shame in business. I see this as a wake up call and an opening for an alternative. Postman was cool, until they started squeezing out pennies, and now we switched to Bruno (until the cycle repeats). The good thing is that along the way, evolution takes place. The new product moves fast, while the dominant product starts to have trouble catching up due to codebase size and legacy.
> No such thing as shame in business
Depends if you care about the people (customers, employees) or the money more.
Re: Figma removed `window.figma` on view-only pages today
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Mac is required for designing, which in pratice most designers are using in the vast majority of organizations, so it's not really an issue. For feedback and handoff the web tool is free and works in any OS that has a browser. https://www.sketch.com/handoff/
Because in 2007-2015 every dumb teacher told their design students this lie and then it became truth. Yet it entirely lacks value. Greater design positions don’t rely on Mac’s lol so why should more simple design?
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Re: Figma removed `window.figma` on view-only pages today
#48Another reason to only trust offline (preferably open-source) tools. So that one day your workflow cannot be shattered by some greedy manager or business changing their "vision".
They have a desktop app. But is it just a wrapper for their web app that doesn't work at all without connectivity?
Re: Figma removed `window.figma` on view-only pages today
#49If Figma continues along this path I worry that they are doomed.
Generally, there are three paths to profitability: 1) increase pricing, 2) decrease expenses, or 3) offer new products and services with superior margin.
It seems like Figma has chosen to implement 1) but sell it to customers as 3). However, in contractionary periods like we are in now, 1) does not work -- no matter how much lock-in you have and how you sell it.
Re: Figma removed `window.figma` on view-only pages today
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Mac is required for designing, which in pratice most designers are using in the vast majority of organizations, so it's not really an issue. For feedback and handoff the web tool is free and works in any OS that has a browser. https://www.sketch.com/handoff/
Didn't know Sketch did cross-platform hand-off nowadays. Yet, I still don't believe "most" designers use Sketch, except in some "niches" like startups for example, or really design-heavy industries. Probably differs wildly by country too. What I've seen used most in the wild is Figma and Adobe tools, a lot of times on Windows.
He was talking about mac os.