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Porn Sites Need Age-Verification Systems in Texas, Court Rules

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What counts as a porn site? Reddit, Twitter, etc. all have porn on them. Definitely backwards for free speech and the open internet. Also backwards for privacy and security. If anything, sites should be prevented from collecting identifying info unless absolutely necessary.

etsy

etsy has the wildest stuff.

edit: maybe this is common knowledge, but I was pretty surprised when I was shopping for a chopping block last year.

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> Texas cannot enforce a provision requiring porn websites to "display health warnings about the effects of the consumption of pornography." Well at least some common sense prevailed, there is zero reason to have a notice like that. Like I kinda get on paper how you could come to the conclusion of needing to do something like this (the ID part), I mean generally (unless you look a certain age) you do have to show you…

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> I have a theory that the people who fall over themselves pushing "modesty" laws are ones who really just want to add a layer of "performing forbidden acts" to their own sexual perversions.

Maybe some. I have another theory that people pushing "modesty" laws want to enforce their values on a world that doesn't share those values.

Re: Porn Sites Need Age-Verification Systems in Texas, Court Rules

#43

What counts as a porn site? Reddit, Twitter, etc. all have porn on them. Definitely backwards for free speech and the open internet. Also backwards for privacy and security. If anything, sites should be prevented from collecting identifying info unless absolutely necessary.

Porn isn't speech. It falls under obscenity. Questions like

> What counts as a porn site?

are really stale, and too often sophistic attempts at obfuscating what is rather clear.

If banning the production and distribution of pornography is not possible with an outright ban, strangling this monstrous industry through onerous regulation is a pretty good tactic. And it's not new. Israel effectively requires citizens to ask for permission from the state to view pornography, for example, while also using pornographic content against what it regards as its enemies (e.g., pornographic broadcasts from a captured TV station in Ramallah some time ago).

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#44

What counts as a porn site? Reddit, Twitter, etc. all have porn on them. Definitely backwards for free speech and the open internet. Also backwards for privacy and security. If anything, sites should be prevented from collecting identifying info unless absolutely necessary.

>The law applies to websites in which more than one-third of the content "is sexual material harmful to minors."

How is “harmful to minors” defined here?

Re: Porn Sites Need Age-Verification Systems in Texas, Court Rules

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> Texas cannot enforce a provision requiring porn websites to "display health warnings about the effects of the consumption of pornography." Well at least some common sense prevailed, there is zero reason to have a notice like that. Like I kinda get on paper how you could come to the conclusion of needing to do something like this (the ID part), I mean generally (unless you look a certain age) you do have to show you…

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You really believe the negative effect has been nothing? I totally oppose this law, but I think claiming that widespread access to internet pornography has had no ill effect at all is denying your own lying eyes.

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> Texas cannot enforce a provision requiring porn websites to "display health warnings about the effects of the consumption of pornography." Well at least some common sense prevailed, there is zero reason to have a notice like that. Like I kinda get on paper how you could come to the conclusion of needing to do something like this (the ID part), I mean generally (unless you look a certain age) you do have to show you…

If anything, the stigma is growing, not fading. I’m not sure why. People who grow it tend to say that there’s new evidence porn will cause mental problems. Or relationship problems. Both claims seem suspect, but I don’t doubt that some people react badly to it. Unfortunately the era of "viewer discretion advised" seems to be closing. Today it’s punish the broadcaster if viewers have an issue. I do think there need to…

Yeah sadly it does seem to be growing, I have been noticing that in many areas of the US a stigma around sex is getting worse and worse. Sex is natural and fun and we should be able to talk about it.

I am thankful that within my group of friends we can openly talk about it.

> I do think there need to be tighter restrictions on the industry exploiting people, though. That seems to be a consistent fact: many people have claimed the industry is exploitative, and that there are few if any protections against it.

I for sure agree with that. There are problem with the industry, particularly how woman are treated.

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Im in Utah which has this law. Now pornhub is effectively inaccessible because Im not giving them my ID but I think it largely backfired because everyone uses offshore sites now. Tbh Im kind of grateful because the offshore sites have much better content since its all pirated, but I never wouldve even thought of them until I was kicked off ph.

You can't legislate freedoms. You can try, but we've always had the tools to subvert (most likely legally on the federal level) and skirt the unconstitutional (face value, not a lawyer) nature of such things. I'm a Christian, and live within my belief structure, too. BUT the path to redemption is either a chicken finger sub if you are a secularist, or a pulpit if your God fearing individual. I just can't stand politi…

You certainly can legislate freedoms. The biggest news of last year was enabling legislating away access to abortion in many states for example.

Internet freedom is harder to legislate, but with enough backing you can legislate things in a way to make it difficult for the common person to access certain websites, which is certainly impactful.

It hasn't happened yet but there is nothing to say it wouldn't happen with enough time and backing of certain politicians.

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There are effective ways (cryptography) to implement age verification and other forms of ID and ID-adjacent verification online that isn't a privacy nightmare. I am currently working on one such solution: https://youtu.be/92gu4mxHmTY https://certisfy.com/ It works, it scales and solves the problem comprehensively. Happy to answer any questions.

That’s a privacy nightmare.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"we" Being the parents of children. Let's be clear here. If your children are visiting adult sites in 2024, it's 100% on you. "gambling" I'm sorry, but gambling? How is a 12 year old supposed to gamble in limitless ways without parental consent? Please, let me know. I'm actually curious.

Tell me you don't have kids without using the words "I don't have kids" Kids gamble away a bunch of money from their parents all the time. Look at games like FIFA that are rated E for Everybody and all of the news articles about kids running up thousands of dollars in FIFA Ultimate Team Packs. Expecting parents to know that they need to be on the look out for their kids being able to spend unlimited money (well, up t…

I'm a parent. Like the person you responded to, I control purchases on my child's devices. It's not difficult, and if you need help with that - or any other parenting advice - just ask.

Re: Porn Sites Need Age-Verification Systems in Texas, Court Rules

#50

What counts as a porn site? Reddit, Twitter, etc. all have porn on them. Definitely backwards for free speech and the open internet. Also backwards for privacy and security. If anything, sites should be prevented from collecting identifying info unless absolutely necessary.

More than 1/3 of the site has to be porn before the law kicks in [0]. [0] https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/88R/billtext/html/HB01181H...

I'm probably thinking too much like an engineer and not a lawyer, but what if the sites this bill is intended to apply to add enough SFW content to push the NSFW below 1/3 of the total? Or does the phrasing of "distributes" mean it needs to be <1/3 of consumption and not just <1/3 of what's available?
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