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What Extropic is building

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Re: What Extropic is building

#42
This guy spends an extraordinary amount of time posting memes and e/acc silliness.

So much so I wonder what the hell they're doing with this company. Is he a prolific poster and an engineering genius? Or is he just another poster

Re: What Extropic is building

#43
post #34

interesting that a company w/ no public repositories has 1.1k github followers https://github.com/extropic-ai

It's led by the e/acc [1] founder, BasedBeffJezos [2]. He has a huge cult following. It's turned into a lot of Twitter memes and shitposting [3]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effective_accelerationism [2] https://twitter.com/BasedBeffJezos [3] https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/cultures/eacc-effective-accel...

Honestly, as interesting as the the chip sounds, I'm admittedly kind of biased against the company's probability of success simply because the founder is basically the #1 e/acc meme account/shitposter on Twitter.

Like, it's hard to take someone seriously when they spend tons of time shitposting on Twitter, it's even harder when it's revealed that they're behind one of the most popular shitposting accounts within a niche, almost cult-like community.

Re: What Extropic is building

#44

I wouldn't want to write this off because you get the feeling these guys are on to something that could be hugely important (ignoring quantum this thermodynamic that) - but surely it feels like they need to get to the point a lot faster e.g. "We're taking a new approach to building chips for AI because transistors can't get any smaller." I really don't know what they gain by convoluting the point and it's pretty hard…

The tech could be really cool if e.g. classifiers could be represented within the probability space modeled on their hardware. However their shaman-speak isn't confidence inducing.

Re: What Extropic is building

#45
post #2

Could someone smarter than me explain if this is a big deal or just hype? The work sound promising, but I wonder how long it would take to build and validate.

It's a startup with well-credential and very technical founders and a fair seed round focused on accelerating one bottleneck in a newly popular computing paradigm using techniques that are known in research but never yet commercialized. It might fail for the reasons many startups fail, but it's not prima facie fantasy.

But I don’t see the bottleneck. What are they optimizing that’s worth all this effort? As others have noted, RNGs are not a notable bottleneck in AI.

Re: What Extropic is building

#46
post #24

I have no idea about the merits of this approach, but I found this interview with the founders a lot more sensical than the linked article: https://twitter.com/Extropic_AI/status/1767203839818781085

This interview makes their product seem like BS. First, they literally cannot simply explain the problem or solution. Regardless, their pitch is that they're building a more power efficient probability distribution sampler. No one in AI research thinks that's a bottleneck. edit: btw the bottleneck in AI algos is matrix multiply and memory bandwith.

Vaguely though what they are talking about sounds like it might be better for training? (I'm really stretching it here)

Re: What Extropic is building

#47
post #42

This guy spends an extraordinary amount of time posting memes and e/acc silliness. So much so I wonder what the hell they're doing with this company. Is he a prolific poster and an engineering genius? Or is he just another poster

For the longest time I thought the person behind the account was just some random guy who was probably very into crypto and decided to dabble in AI because of the parallels between e/acc and the whole "to the moon" messaging you find in crypto communities.

Never would have guessed the guy was an actual physicist

Re: What Extropic is building

#48
post #24

I have no idea about the merits of this approach, but I found this interview with the founders a lot more sensical than the linked article: https://twitter.com/Extropic_AI/status/1767203839818781085

And Lex's podcast/interview with Guillaume Verdon, one of said founders. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8fEEbKJoNbU&pp=ygUVbGV4IGZyaWR...

Anyone else get super creepy vibes from the way he talks in this video? I'm calling that it's a fraud.

If it is a fraud, how do people like this get funded?? (And how can I be creepier so that my real ideas get funded)

Re: What Extropic is building

#49
post #39

I wouldn't want to write this off because you get the feeling these guys are on to something that could be hugely important (ignoring quantum this thermodynamic that) - but surely it feels like they need to get to the point a lot faster e.g. "We're taking a new approach to building chips for AI because transistors can't get any smaller." I really don't know what they gain by convoluting the point and it's pretty hard…

Convolutional neural networks were a huge advancement in their time

I don't disagree. I just come away from the article feeling more confused as opposed to enlightened and excited about what they're building.

It even makes me think that they don't understand what they're talking about which is why they're using complicated terminology to mask it but I'm hopeful I'm wrong and this is an engineering innovation that benefits everyone.

Re: What Extropic is building

#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And Lex's podcast/interview with Guillaume Verdon, one of said founders. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8fEEbKJoNbU&pp=ygUVbGV4IGZyaWR...

Anyone else get super creepy vibes from the way he talks in this video? I'm calling that it's a fraud. If it is a fraud, how do people like this get funded?? (And how can I be creepier so that my real ideas get funded)

The sad truth: get on Twitter and say a lot of weird, "high-minded" things. It's where VCs hang out, and this is the language they get from a lot of people.
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