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Re: DBeaver – open-source database client

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Post by cowmix »

evanelias wrote: post #31
cowmix wrote: post #9

DBeaver is amazing. As someone who needs to do adhoc querying / extracting / loading of data from any hosts of system on a daily basis - this tool has saved me over and over again. My beef is there doesn't seem to be a way to contribute $$$ to the OS version -- except for buying/subscribing to the commercial version. Maybe I've missed some web page that explains how to do contribute -- so if anyone knows if there's a…

Out of curiosity, why not buy/subscribe to the commercial version then, if this is the clear path for how to support the primary developers of the software?

I don't like the subscription options they offer. I just want to throw them $50 a year for the CE version -- which I would think is better than $0 a year I'm giving them now.

Re: DBeaver – open-source database client

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Post by cowmix »

worble wrote: post #34
cowmix wrote: post #9

DBeaver is amazing. As someone who needs to do adhoc querying / extracting / loading of data from any hosts of system on a daily basis - this tool has saved me over and over again. My beef is there doesn't seem to be a way to contribute $$$ to the OS version -- except for buying/subscribing to the commercial version. Maybe I've missed some web page that explains how to do contribute -- so if anyone knows if there's a…

I swear I donated to them via paypal once long ago, but I think they've since removed all those donation links in favor of the EE. Presumably any profits they make from merch goes into their pockets, so you could buy something from there that's in the price range you want to donate I suppose https://www.redbubble.com/people/DBeaverCorp/shop

t-shirt ordered.. thx!

Re: DBeaver – open-source database client

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Post by pachico »

staticlibs wrote: post #26
pachico wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ugliness is something I found to be quite common in Java based apps. I never understood why, though.

None of major Java/OpenJDK contributors (Oracle, Red Hat, SAP etc) care about desktop GUI Java libs. Jet Brains do care, but they are not major. All Java progress is concentrated on backend cloud services for 10-15 years already. This can explain why Swing is so underdeveloped and JavaFX was thrown away. Basically much more effort is required to make Java GUI look and behave nicely, comparing to Delphi/Lazarus or .NE…

I'm ignorant about this all. Can't you use something like Qt in Java?

Re: DBeaver – open-source database client

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Post by paulryanrogers »

thunderbong wrote: post #23
paulryanrogers wrote: post #2

It's a decent free and cross platform UI. Doesn't have all the DB specific features of a tool like PG admin or MySQL Workbench. Still, I like having the same tool for all my basic needs, and only use a more specialized one where I really need it.

Can you elaborate on what DB specific features are missing?

Pgadmin has some in depth stats about the server and can export COPY statements, among other things. MySQL Workbench has some nice planner visualisations.

Re: DBeaver – open-source database client

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Post by gbear605 »

pachico wrote: post #43
staticlibs wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

None of major Java/OpenJDK contributors (Oracle, Red Hat, SAP etc) care about desktop GUI Java libs. Jet Brains do care, but they are not major. All Java progress is concentrated on backend cloud services for 10-15 years already. This can explain why Swing is so underdeveloped and JavaFX was thrown away. Basically much more effort is required to make Java GUI look and behave nicely, comparing to Delphi/Lazarus or .NE…

I'm ignorant about this all. Can't you use something like Qt in Java?

There are Qt bindings for Java, but I’m not familiar with them

Re: DBeaver – open-source database client

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Post by selfawareMammal »

worble wrote: post #37
dfee wrote: post #17

I don’t know why it matters to me, but I’ve always been put off by it being ugly and using non-native widgets. That may be the only reason I’ve paid for TablePlus. I’d probably be fine with a great TUI interface, too. So it’s really this intermediate UI that irritates me.

I find it absolutely baffling how often the prettiness of UI comes up as a HN comment. If you asked me objectively "do you think it's pretty?" I'd probably say no, but never once has this even occurred me when using it since I'm usually just trying to get work done, which I find it very useful for. It's a productivity tool, not an art piece I'm hanging on my wall.

Imo it's not just about being functional so I can get work done. It's also about enjoying what I'm doing and having aesthetic tools is important to me. It's still functionality the most important? Yes. Do I prefer non-ugly tools to ugly tools even if I had to trade a bit of functionality for a lot of prettiness? Yes, every single time (as long as I can still get done what I need to get done, ofc)

Re: DBeaver – open-source database client

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Post by joshstrange »

vbezhenar wrote: post #4

Also they made a browser database client (cloudbeaver) which is much better than pgdamin IMO. I set it for my company, so people can easily access database without creating tunnels, sharing passwords, etc. I tried pgadmin before, but it was incredibly buggy, almost unusable as a shared installation (often server would just hang until restart). For desktop I, personally, prefer Idea Database plugin, because it's just…

> For desktop I, personally, prefer Idea Database plugin, because it's just SQL editor, but incredibly powerful one.

I also quite like DataGrip (essentially a standalone of the IDEA database plugin, or maybe the plugin is a plugin version of the standalone, not sure which came first).

Re: DBeaver – open-source database client

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Post by dorfsmay »

ramon156 wrote: post #20
dfee wrote: post #17

I don’t know why it matters to me, but I’ve always been put off by it being ugly and using non-native widgets. That may be the only reason I’ve paid for TablePlus. I’d probably be fine with a great TUI interface, too. So it’s really this intermediate UI that irritates me.

Not good at supporting GTK either, its the sole reason I do not use it on gnome

What?

I use it on gnome all the time and never run into an issue.

Re: DBeaver – open-source database client

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Post by evanelias »

cowmix wrote: post #41
evanelias wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of curiosity, why not buy/subscribe to the commercial version then, if this is the clear path for how to support the primary developers of the software?

I don't like the subscription options they offer. I just want to throw them $50 a year for the CE version -- which I would think is better than $0 a year I'm giving them now.

From my POV, $50/year is not necessarily better than $0. Open source "donations" to open core / commercial OSS businesses typically don't amount to much in total. It's basically a rounding error for most businesses, with the extra downside of accounting/tax tracking. And although many FOSS financial contributors understand that this is a no-strings-attached type of situation, a small portion become very demanding and have unreasonable expectations due to being a supporter.

I mean I kind of get where you're coming from, but on the other hand... outside of software, would you ever praise a product as an amazing life-saver, but express a beef with the makers' lack of a pocket-change GoFundMe?

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