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OpenAI board reappoints Altman and adds three other directors

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Re: OpenAI board reappoints Altman and adds three other directors

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Post by fireynis »

scop wrote: post #28

> reviewed more than 30,000 documents As somebody completely ignorant of the inner workings of the legal trade, can somebody explain what this means? Does this mean a group of informed humans reviewed 30k docs? Does this mean 30k docs were grep’d for keywords? Somewhere in between?

ChatGPT?

Re: OpenAI board reappoints Altman and adds three other directors

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Post by liuliu »

philip1209 wrote: post #33
chrisfosterelli wrote: post #15

I'm not necessarily saying they're wrong, but there's really no way to put out a release like this without a "history is written by the victors" vibe coming across.

“When you strike at a king, you must kill him.”

You cannot kill an immortal.

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Post by bossyTeacher »

They hired an external firm to review the suitability of Altman and Brockman and it also reviewed 30k documents. I wonder how they managed to review that many documents in a few months. The outcome is very predictable anyway. Without Altman/Brockman OpenAI is dead. This explains why the instigators of the ousting (Mira Murati and Ilya Sutskever) supported the return of the 2 people who purposely violated the goals of OpenAI the not-profit in pursuit of profit. No one is saying that they didn't need to do that (making AGI as anything other than a for-profit is not feasible) but lying about their immediate goals is definitely a red flag, especially when you are working on something as ethically sensitive as AGI.

Imagine if Openheimer lied and turns out that the was planning to make a company to sell WMD to anyone with enough money

Re: OpenAI board reappoints Altman and adds three other directors

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Post by dang »

firloop wrote: post #13
dang wrote: post #4

Since https://www.theinformation.com/articles/sam-altman-to-return... is hardwalled, we need to find an alternate source. I've put a stub article up there for the moment. Is there a better one? theinformation.com used to open specific articles for HN readers on request*, but eventually stopped answering our emails. * https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

You could use the OpenAI announcement: https://openai.com/blog/review-completed-altman-brockman-to-...

That's certainly worth linking to but I'd prefer to have a more neutral source as the top link. I guess I'll put it and the other openai.com link in a top comment.

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Post by croddin »

chrisfosterelli wrote: post #15

I'm not necessarily saying they're wrong, but there's really no way to put out a release like this without a "history is written by the victors" vibe coming across.

Yeah. The review and findings should have at least attempted to answer the question: "What did Ilya see?"

Re: OpenAI board reappoints Altman and adds three other directors

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Post by baobabKoodaa »

In all the possible timelines, there is no universe in which the review concluded wrongdoing on Altman's part and demanded his immediate removal. Trust me, I checked. In fact, I hired WilmerHale to review all 30,000 possible timelines. After paying them $2M in fees, they concluded that I was right all along.

Re: OpenAI board reappoints Altman and adds three other directors

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Post by IAmNotACellist »

htrp wrote: post #16

>Dr. Sue Desmond-Hellmann, former CEO of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, >Nicole Seligman, former EVP and General Counsel at Sony Corporation > Fidji Simo, CEO and Chair of Instacart. > Sam Altman, CEO, will rejoin the OpenAI Board of Directors. Guess Greg loses

The public loses

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Post by drexlspivey »

kmeisthax wrote: post #27
minimaxir wrote: post #14

The conclusion just raises further questions on why the coup happened, other than a "consequence of a breakdown in the relationship and loss of trust between the prior Board and Mr. Altman".

The answer is that Altman tried to get the Board removed, the Board found out and snap fired him, which scared the shit out of Microsoft. The prior and new Boards both cannot make the allegation that Altman tried to commit a corporate coup, albeit for different reasons[0], so we're never going to get official confirmation of anything. My prediction is that Altman will, unmoored from any sort of accountability, wind u…

> The answer is that Altman tried to get the Board removed, the Board found out and snap fired him

Who elects the board in a non-profit? Who did sama go to to get them removed?

Re: OpenAI board reappoints Altman and adds three other directors

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Post by yterdy »

minimaxir wrote: post #8

> The company will also announce the appointment of three new directors, Sue Desmond-Hellmann, a former CEO of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Nicole Seligman, a former president of Sony Entertainment, and Fidji Simo, CEO of Instacart, the Information said. This selection of directors seems...random? Is there a business reason for these directors? (aside from the obvious YC link with Instacart)

Club, ain't in it, etc.
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