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New York Times is targeting Wordle clones with DMCA takedowns

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Re: New York Times is targeting Wordle clones with DMCA takedowns

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A company wants to enforce its copyright, etc., fine. That's their right to do so. Although I beg to differ with our copyright laws. No, what I find objectionable about the NYT games team, such as their spelling bee puzzle, is that they selectively deem certain words not valid responses. Not curse words or words with no redeeming value, but words that are perceived to be derogatory against disadvantaged groups or "of…

Good thing you're not sensitive.

Re: New York Times is targeting Wordle clones with DMCA takedowns

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Not sure why you're grayed out - no, you cannot copywrite gameplay. The name "Wordle" could be protected, though, which is probably the case here. In any case, Wordle is too damn easy. Don't think I've ever lost. I recommend sedecordle for word enjoyers

Semantle is nice but very difficult. You have unlimited tries, though.

Just tried Semantle, which I hadn't heard of before.

I don't want to spoil today's puzzle, but after getting a few hints and giving up to get the answer, I don't see any relation between the hints and the answer.

(The similarity scores are word2vec cosine similarity, and that's fun to see in action, but the results make me think word2vec isn't that good.)

Edit: I tried yesterday's word and that was much better. Today's word might just be word2vec's kryptonite.

Re: New York Times is targeting Wordle clones with DMCA takedowns

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> In a statement to 404 Media, the Times said: > > The Times has no issue with individuals creating similar word games that do not infringe The Times’s “Wordle” trademarks or copyrighted gameplay. Can you really copyright “gameplay”? This seems like pointless bullying by the Times, who is probably just upset they haven’t got a positive ROI on their acquisition of a free game.

Especially considering wordle has no unique gameplay. Its a very, very old game with a million variations. There was even a TV show called lingo or something that did competetive wordle. The only thing NYT owns is a brand since the game is hundreds of years old.

> Amusingly, Wordle has itself been criticized over striking similarities it shares with Lingo, a 1980s game show that centered on players guessing five-letter words, with a grid that changes color based on accuracy.

Indeed. I know this from TV, grew up with it. Was a fun educative program back in the days.

Re: New York Times is targeting Wordle clones with DMCA takedowns

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure why you're grayed out - no, you cannot copywrite gameplay. The name "Wordle" could be protected, though, which is probably the case here. In any case, Wordle is too damn easy. Don't think I've ever lost. I recommend sedecordle for word enjoyers

Yeah I stopped playing it pretty quickly. There was that not-wordle game where you had to not get the word. It made me realise just how tricky failing wordle was. I still do "where taken", which is photos of countries, tradle for oec trade commodities and guess the game for video games. They're all far more interesting than guessing some random word.

Here's a curated awesome-wordle list [1]. Back in the days (as if it is long ago) I used a different one and had quite some fun with some of the clones (I didn't check this specific one).

[1] https://github.com/prakhar897/awesome-wordle

Re: New York Times is targeting Wordle clones with DMCA takedowns

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> In a statement to 404 Media, the Times said: > > The Times has no issue with individuals creating similar word games that do not infringe The Times’s “Wordle” trademarks or copyrighted gameplay. Can you really copyright “gameplay”? This seems like pointless bullying by the Times, who is probably just upset they haven’t got a positive ROI on their acquisition of a free game.

Especially considering wordle has no unique gameplay. Its a very, very old game with a million variations. There was even a TV show called lingo or something that did competetive wordle. The only thing NYT owns is a brand since the game is hundreds of years old.

Siblings have mentioned the TV game show Lingo. I can't precisely date Bulls and cows (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulls_and_cows), but it's hard to imagine that it (the gameplay, if not that particular pen-and-paper game) isn't much older than television, hence than Lingo.

Re: New York Times is targeting Wordle clones with DMCA takedowns

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You cannot copyright gameplay. https://www.americanbar.org/groups/intellectual_property_law... .

but you can patent it.

> The publication has filed several DMCA copyright requests
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