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Re: Free data transfer out to internet when moving out of AWS

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Post by alexdns »

Hamuko wrote: post #37
NorwegianDude wrote: post #35

> Over 90 percent of our customers already incur no data transfer expenses out of AWS because we provide 100 gigabytes per month free from AWS Regions to the internet. Damn, that's a lot of tiny customers. 100 GB per month is less than what many use on their phone during a month. So basically, most people using AWS is definitely people who don't need it to scale.

My personal AWS account is just for storing some archive files in S3, which incurs a $0.02/month bill and which Amazon can't be bothered to charge.

Its not that they are not bothered to charge its just that cc processing fees are higher than what you are being billed. It will accumulate and they will charge it when it reaches a certain amount

Re: Free data transfer out to internet when moving out of AWS

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Post by graemep »

mikelitoris wrote: post #39
lelanthran wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well waddya know... Looks like sometimes regulations do work better than the invisible hand of the free market. Reality: the invisible hand is simply a fist made up of all members of a cartel.

Invisible hand works in perfect markets which never exist in reality. It is used as a smokescreen by the people with insane amounts of money who can bend the rules to their will, to convince the rest of the people how the economy works. Like most of economics

Adam Smith himself never claimed it was that simple. He also wrote on ethics (and regarded that book as more important IIRC). He also warned that those is the same trade would inevitably conspire against the public.

Re: Free data transfer out to internet when moving out of AWS

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Post by ralphist »

NorwegianDude wrote: post #35

> Over 90 percent of our customers already incur no data transfer expenses out of AWS because we provide 100 gigabytes per month free from AWS Regions to the internet. Damn, that's a lot of tiny customers. 100 GB per month is less than what many use on their phone during a month. So basically, most people using AWS is definitely people who don't need it to scale.

I wonder what customer sizes really matter to them. Are the bulk of their revenue a lot of small/medium-sized companies paying a few 10-100k a year, or do they have a few government/bigcorp whales subsidizing the service for the rest?

Re: Free data transfer out to internet when moving out of AWS

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Post by ralphist »

rescbr wrote: post #18
Daviey wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then compare that statement with their FAQ, https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/faqs/#Data_transfer_fees_when_mov... > After your move away from AWS services, within the 60-day period, you must delete all remaining data and workloads from your AWS account, or you can close your AWS account.

If you manage to delete everything and make the billing to be zero dollars, then there's no need to close the account... In many cases, this is way harder than it sounds.

Beginner here, but shouldn't `terraform destroy` make this very easy? Assuming you deploy everything with IaC.

Re: Free data transfer out to internet when moving out of AWS

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Post by Lionga »

mikelitoris wrote: post #39
lelanthran wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well waddya know... Looks like sometimes regulations do work better than the invisible hand of the free market. Reality: the invisible hand is simply a fist made up of all members of a cartel.

Invisible hand works in perfect markets which never exist in reality. It is used as a smokescreen by the people with insane amounts of money who can bend the rules to their will, to convince the rest of the people how the economy works. Like most of economics

Regulations work with perfect governments that are all knowing, all powerful and only interested in the good of the people. It is used as a smokescreen by the governments who can (literally) bend the rules to their will, to convince the rest of the people how the economy works.

I would say this is ever further from reality than perfect markets.

So we probably need both.

Re: Free data transfer out to internet when moving out of AWS

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Post by zaphirplane »

switch007 wrote: post #34

In reference to the EU legislating, Amazon will just seek/get revenue gains elsewhere. It won’t be immediate, it won’t be obvious, but it will happen. Take EU261, which caused issues for smaller airlines, leading to less competition, increased fares. There are also claims it’s affecting safety [0]. I’m not against EU261 per se, but it’s healthy to be critical of large institutions like the EU. People, I find, cheer a…

Right it shifts prices around, but reduced the lock-in. No regulator cares that Mercedes are more expensive than Kia. Regulators will be interested if Mercedes charges 30k to reset the car for resale or some other silly analogy

Re: Free data transfer out to internet when moving out of AWS

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Post by belter »

lelanthran wrote: post #13
weikju wrote: post #4

> The waiver on data transfer out to the internet charges also follows the direction set by the European Data Act and is available to all AWS customers around the world and from any AWS Region. Thank you, EU, on behalf of the rest of the world

Well waddya know... Looks like sometimes regulations do work better than the invisible hand of the free market. Reality: the invisible hand is simply a fist made up of all members of a cartel.

Financial markets are some of the most regulated environments anywhere.

Re: Free data transfer out to internet when moving out of AWS

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Post by pinkgolem »

andrewstuart wrote: post #24

So move out to a cloud that doesn’t charge egress. Unless of course you went all in on IAM, Lambda, API gateway etc etc instead of just running software on Linux. In which case you’ll need to stay.

Tbh,I don't miss a lot from AWS, but IAM is pretty cool for auth between services and I have not found a comparable on premise solution
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