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In war for talent, 'brogrammers' will be losers

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Re: In war for talent, 'brogrammers' will be losers

#41
Nobody is turning down skilled engineers because they don't shotgun a beer at the interview.

All of this outrage over a joke is ridiculous. Yes, some people have made some stupid flyers (saying girls are going to serve you beer as you code? dumb) but most of the time it's just a joke poking fun at the stereotype that programmers are lame awkward nerds.

Re: In war for talent, 'brogrammers' will be losers

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> "Wanna bro down and crush some code?" What? Who would say that, ever? > San Francisco-based Klout Oh. Carry on then. "Brogrammers" are pretty hilarious though. I mean, aside from the utility of being a "warning, we're a company of homophobes and sexists" alert, I think that it started as a joke? Then, there were people that didn't realize it was a joke and started actually using it. I think that's pretty funny.

Am I missing some inside joke? what exactly is a brogrammer? :(

I've never heard of it neither. Might be a new meme.

Re: In war for talent, 'brogrammers' will be losers

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> "Wanna bro down and crush some code?" What? Who would say that, ever? > San Francisco-based Klout Oh. Carry on then. "Brogrammers" are pretty hilarious though. I mean, aside from the utility of being a "warning, we're a company of homophobes and sexists" alert, I think that it started as a joke? Then, there were people that didn't realize it was a joke and started actually using it. I think that's pretty funny.

I have known programmers who talk exactly like that. It's a real thing. The startup craze has attracted a lot of people with a swollen sense of self worth. People who call themselves ninjas and what not. This is one of the thing that attracts me to Clojure. Rich Hickey is the exact opposite of a brogrammer. He doesn't care about trends, or social mobile appification, he just cares about getting shit done.

You're attracted to a programming language because you think its author is cool?

Hm. Makes sense. COBOL, here I come!!

Re: In war for talent, 'brogrammers' will be losers

#44

I think I'm reaching the end of my tolerance for the word "brogrammer" I don't tolerate sexism, racism, or bigotry. Period. Whether it has a catchy name or not. I have noticed that many of the attributes associated to "brogrammer" are attributes I associate with immature males. Here's the thing: I do not believe that shaming immature males is going to make them more mature. In fact, I think it's going to drive the en…

I'd take violent anarchists, Buddhists, and Nazis in a team if I could make it work. Maybe it wouldn't work on a technology team, but it's an excellent set up for a "...walk into a bar" joke.

I'm not sure we have a Buddhist (maybe some Indian guys, not sure, we don't discuss religion much, but they don't eat meat), but violent anarchists and almost-evil eastern bloc caricatures seem to be represented fairly well where I work.

The do get shit done, though.

Re: In war for talent, 'brogrammers' will be losers

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I'd take violent anarchists, Buddhists, and Nazis in a team if I could make it work. Maybe it wouldn't work on a technology team, but it's an excellent set up for a "...walk into a bar" joke.

I'm not sure we have a Buddhist (maybe some Indian guys, not sure, we don't discuss religion much, but they don't eat meat), but violent anarchists and almost-evil eastern bloc caricatures seem to be represented fairly well where I work. The do get shit done, though.

The guy sitting next to me is an aspiring Buddhist, and I'm a Russian immigrant who is tinkering with a USB missile system in his spare time so I can shoot my coworkers when they commit bugs into the repo.

I'll have to investigate the other coworker for any swastika tattoos. He does speak some German...

Re: In war for talent, 'brogrammers' will be losers

#47

> "Companies that are inclusive, like Facebook, have an advantage in recruiting talents, says Gina Trapani" Didn't the whole brogrammer thing start at Facebook? (hint: yes).

Ooops. I hit down vote instead of up vote by accident. How do I undo it?

You can't. Welcome to the post-500 club.

Re: In war for talent, 'brogrammers' will be losers

#48
This article is fluff, and this is a made-up controversy. Worse things have been said during presentations, and more objectifying advertisements have aired. I'm sure Gina boycotts GoDaddy because, based on their advertising campaigns that contain scantily-clad women, they must be a company full of misogynists.

This article would have had a larger impact had she instead focused on what DOES make a tech team work well; if she had focused on the qualities that make a tech team thrive, and how "brogrammer" culture cuts into that advantage. By writing a piece on a made-up controversy, she just loses credibility.

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