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Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

#41

Post by wakawaka28 »

kibwen wrote: post #4

The financialization of everything is why we can't have nice things.

You have to admit, most open source projects suffer from a lack of funding. I don't like this particular solution but something like it could work. It's supposed to be opt-in for project owners, and that's ok as far as I'm concerned.

As far as the forking issue, nothing really stops zero-effort forks from seeking compensation. Anyone could fork a project and replace all the donation links in the docs with their own. So if you do want to donate to a project, do a little research.

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

#42

Post by charcircuit »

aChattuio wrote: post #36
morgante wrote: post #32

Cryptocurrency has basically completely inverted the trust issue it's meant to solve (at least for many developers). In theory, a decentralized ledger of project contributions / owners is a good idea for distributing sponsorship dollars without a middleman controlling things. In practice, the brand of crypto has gotten so bad that developers are far more likely to trust centralized mechanisms like GitHub's funding.ya…

And it doesn't even solve the trust problem for anything off chain. And even if it would than the question of which chain is the right one comes up. Did you know there are fake nfts and you hardly can see which ones are real? You literally need an initial trust anchor like a project website with https to learn about it. What a wonderful irony.

Counterfeits exist in real life too, bit crypto has the benefit that you can actually prove who created something where in real life a good counterfeit could remain undetected.

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

#43

Post by charcircuit »

kibwen wrote: post #4

The financialization of everything is why we can't have nice things.

Financialization is why nice things can be done at scale. Without finanialization the nice things would be smaller and less common. Expecting people to do high quality work for free is not sustainable.

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

#44

Post by mikemcquaid »

jxi wrote: post #20
nocobot wrote: post #14

Max Howell (creator of homebrew) is also behind tea.xyz imo that give them some more credibility or at least makes me think that they probably are well intentioned

If anything this makes me seriously rethink my use of homebrew. I already had security-related concerns around it, but the fact that he launched this weird crypto thing that's going to cause a lot of spam on GitHub is pushing me even further away.

It’s completely unrelated to Homebrew. We have zero connection to anything related to Tea and Max hasn’t been involved with Homebrew for the best part of a decade.

Mike McQuaid, Homebrew Project Leader and Homebrew maintainer for the last 15 years.

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

#45

Post by miah_ »

wakawaka28 wrote: post #41
kibwen wrote: post #4

The financialization of everything is why we can't have nice things.

You have to admit, most open source projects suffer from a lack of funding. I don't like this particular solution but something like it could work. It's supposed to be opt-in for project owners, and that's ok as far as I'm concerned. As far as the forking issue, nothing really stops zero-effort forks from seeking compensation. Anyone could fork a project and replace all the donation links in the docs with their own.…

Zero effort forks are going to have very few users though, and very little incentive for people to switch to or donate to.

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

#46

Post by mikemcquaid »

ubertaco wrote: post #24
colesantiago wrote: post #16

Just as an aside Tea.xyz is funded by Binance. [1] Make of this what you will, but I call immediate scam. https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220323005603/en/Tea...

EDIT: if you're reading my comment, please see the response from Mike McQuaid, who's the _current_ project leader for Homebrew. It's good to know Max isn't involved over there anymore! Gonna leave my original comment below this line, so that the context still makes sense: ---- That fact paired with the fact that the guy behind Tea.xyz is the same as the guy behind Homebrew makes me _really_ distrust Homebrew going fo…

It’s completely unrelated to Homebrew. We have zero connection to anything related to Tea and Max hasn’t been involved with Homebrew for the best part of a decade.

Mike McQuaid, Homebrew Project Leader and Homebrew maintainer for the last 15 years.

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

#47

Post by [deleted] »

saghul wrote: post #37
ubertaco wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

EDIT: if you're reading my comment, please see the response from Mike McQuaid, who's the _current_ project leader for Homebrew. It's good to know Max isn't involved over there anymore! Gonna leave my original comment below this line, so that the context still makes sense: ---- That fact paired with the fact that the guy behind Tea.xyz is the same as the guy behind Homebrew makes me _really_ distrust Homebrew going fo…

IIRC he stepped away from Homebrew years ago. See https://github.com/Homebrew/brew/graphs/contributors

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Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

#48

Post by mikemcquaid »

Hi, as it’s come up a few times in the comments: Tea completely unrelated to Homebrew other than happening to have the same creator. Homebrew has zero connection to anything related to Tea and Max hasn’t been involved with Homebrew for the best part of a decade.

Mike McQuaid, Homebrew Project Leader and Homebrew maintainer for the last 15 years.

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

#49

Post by cpach »

lucideer wrote: post #29
packetlost wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder how good Nix support is on MacOS these days...

I recently switched from MacPorts to Homebrew & from previous trials of Nix, MacPorts support is well ahead of Nix. I used MacPorts for many years without many issues - only recently just started to get a little too frustrated with some new utils that were Homebrew-only & finally capitulated. So you can get very far with MacPorts (& it's a far better system than brew). Be great to see something gain traction over Hom…

Isn’t it best if the application developers just release their application on GitHub or similar, then package maintaners can package the software for their specific package manager? That’s how it works for many Linux distros, e.g. Debian etc etc.

Re: The Disappointing Tea.xyz

#50

Post by ubertaco »

mikemcquaid wrote: post #46
ubertaco wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

EDIT: if you're reading my comment, please see the response from Mike McQuaid, who's the _current_ project leader for Homebrew. It's good to know Max isn't involved over there anymore! Gonna leave my original comment below this line, so that the context still makes sense: ---- That fact paired with the fact that the guy behind Tea.xyz is the same as the guy behind Homebrew makes me _really_ distrust Homebrew going fo…

It’s completely unrelated to Homebrew. We have zero connection to anything related to Tea and Max hasn’t been involved with Homebrew for the best part of a decade. Mike McQuaid, Homebrew Project Leader and Homebrew maintainer for the last 15 years.

Hey, thanks for responding! That's reassuring, but...how much input would Max still have to Homebrew if he chose to "return"? Like, if tomorrow Max decides that Homebrew is a great vector for another crypto scam, will the existing group of maintainers be able (and willing) to reject any changes in that direction?
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