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Argentina's Economy Is Screaming at Top of Its Lungs

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Re: Argentina's Economy Is Screaming at Top of Its Lungs

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If Milei is turning away from the economic independence offered by BRICS to sell off all state assets to Blackrock he is a traitor.

If he is turning from "economic independence" offered by BRICS it would mean that he is much more sane than many would believe. BRICS has nothing to offer and nothing in common apart from being against the western world.

Re: Argentina's Economy Is Screaming at Top of Its Lungs

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This is well known in Argentina. Many Milei voters knew that if the accounts are put in order and the distortions created by subsidies, privileges, etc. are eliminated, and with a Central Bank with negative equity, the only way to stay afloat is to finish sinking and bounce off the bottom. A year ago, a consulting firm predicted that if poverty in Argentina is measured accurately and distortions are eliminated, the number would be close to 70%. It's the economy resulting from 23 years of continuous socialism, corruption, and plundering of public coffers. With an almost unpayable external debt, there is no credit institution to which Argentina does not owe an astronomical amount, making it impossible to obtain external financing to "soften" the fiscal and monetary correction needed. Therefore, the only thing left for Argentines is "blood, sweat, and tears."

Re: Argentina's Economy Is Screaming at Top of Its Lungs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I genuinely don’t understand. Shouldn’t we expect bias regardless of their orientation? Conservative, libertarian, liberal, progressive, Marxist - whatever ideology someone has, whether it has a name or not, whether it is coherent or not, it’s going to contain their bias. Not to be too reductive but that’s how human beings work.

“All those people who disagree with me are biased” is also how human beings work.

I guess some people use “bias” that way, but I use it as simply “all people are biased”. Even if they agree with me. Because I am biased, because all people are biased.

Re: Argentina's Economy Is Screaming at Top of Its Lungs

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To be clear, this is a liberal economics blog, so expect at least some bias.

I genuinely don’t understand. Shouldn’t we expect bias regardless of their orientation? Conservative, libertarian, liberal, progressive, Marxist - whatever ideology someone has, whether it has a name or not, whether it is coherent or not, it’s going to contain their bias. Not to be too reductive but that’s how human beings work.

Yes, I'm just pointing out this blog's one

Re: Argentina's Economy Is Screaming at Top of Its Lungs

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brazil cured its hyperinflation by what could be described as the opposite of shock therapy.

interesting - where can I read more?

Sibling comment linked to Wikipedia English article, which describes the overall thing, but I think it lacks a bit on the "being the opposite of shock therapy".

The thing about Plano Real is really about its previous context. In the preceding 10 years, government tried fighting hyperinflation by introducing measures that, by their nature, could not be revealed to society beforehand. They did things like freeze prices of goods, blanket freezes of bank deposits and savings, etc. None of that worked, either because implementing price freezes was impractical and easily circumvented, or because freezing deposits hurt people's ability to invest, etc.

For Plano real, everything was laid out by the team proposing it far in advance, everything was clearly communicated by the government, all dates of transitions and rules were known in advance by all actors of the economy.

Really, the only unknown variable was the final conversion rate, but everyone knew it was going to kind of resemble the dollar ratio. In fact, I remember it crisp in my mind (I was a child), the final rate was CR$ 2750 = 1 R$.

And it worked.

Oh, and we also won the world cup that year, whiiiich in my mind, helped.

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