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Re: Rotten Apple

#41

A lot of this article appears to be based on the belief that the security architecture of iOS and MacOS are identical. This seems ... an unlikely assumption

I think a more problematic assumption is that iOS and MacOS users are equally aware and knowledgeable about potential security threats. It’s true that the sky hasn’t fallen because MacOS users are exposed to these risks. But they are not new risks on MacOS. They will be on iOS.

Maybe people on this site are aware but I can assure you average Joe has no clue.

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#43
I have an ipad through which I subscribed for Apple arcade. I don't use it / play at all on it and there was recently an email that price is going up. Sure, I'll just cancel subscription I said. I don't have my ipad on me, nor any other apple device (I don't use them anymore), nor windows. I have linux machines and android phone. Ok, so how do I cancel subscription? icloud login? no. subscription place of sorts? it wants me to install itunes, which I can't.. ok, no. After googling around, turns out there's actually no way except to call Apple in USA or wherever. I'll just wait a week untill I get a hold of my iPad and Apple won't be seeing my money for a long time. Disgraceful to say the least.

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#44

fighting to sustain a monopoly it indicates to me a lack of ideas about the future reacting rather than preparing

With a soon to be nonexistent middle class in the USA (as well as big growth in comparatively poor countries) getting Apple-style huge profits in the next 2-3 decades is going to be much more about getting $20-50/mo/user in perpetuity and less about selling premium price $1k-3k devices. The AVP (at like version 3 or 4) is the endgame for “Apple should make a TV”. It’s the ultimate passive content consumption device.

Apple is now existentially committed to recurring revenue like a crackhead loves crack.

It was obvious to me when I bought a $1600 iPhone and within 5 minutes of setting it up it began nagging me for $5 for iCloud storage. When even Google has figured out how to not nickel and dime your most profitable customer segment and Apple hasn’t, you know something’s wrong.

Expect one of the most clever companies in the world to put a majority of their mental energy into rentseeking of all kinds, from cloud storage to content rentals (music and tv and movie subscriptions) to AppleCare and every other possible thing (Fitness, Arcade, the perpetual iPhone upgrade thing, etc). It’s going to be subscriptions forever.

I expect them to be wildly successful from a revenue standpoint with this plan. Their products (that ugly-ass Ultra watch and tiny bass-free Homepod mini, for example) and nag-filled no-privacy UX have taken a hit and will continue to do so. They’re just consumption devices for Apple Music and iMessage (your attachment history for which drives iCloud storage upgrades). I’m surprised they haven’t figured out a way to charge something for FaceTime yet.

This is why they are fighting the DMA - their position as rentseeker is directly responsible for a double digit percentage of the profits of the most valuable company in the world for the next two dozen years. We are talking about literally trillions of dollars hanging in the balance here. How much fight do you think they will bring to bear on this for that much revenue?

There is zero product UX that is insanely great coming out of Apple these days. The actual engineering behind things like Homepods, AVP, the watch, AirPods, and the Mx silicon is absolutely insane, but it doesn’t inspire users in the UX anymore - it’s all in the background. The AVP is literally the cutting edge of hardware at that price point and all people say about it is that it’s too heavy. The products can’t exist without the engineering, but the users don’t know or care and don’t get the elation and delight that Apple used to be explicitly known for. It’s just “GPU performance and battery life go up and to the right again this year (and sometimes new colors)”.

It’s all just scaffolding to play back consumer media (the marginal cost of which asymptotically approaches zero) so they can extract the recurring rents.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they ever do make a car that they offer it as lease-only.

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#45
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps this is just "all we could deliver by the compliance deadline without compromising platform security" ? The truth is usually a lot less interesting than the hypothesis.

Maybe ... but a large company implementing compliance in the most self-serving way possible isn't exactly a shocking idea, either.

Well exactly. The point is that both sides of the argument are somewhat more nuanced as they are disingenuously promoted.

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post #9

It's a shame, Apple is in a place to be the leader and decent, instead it decides not to be both.

Apple is the new Microsoft, except worse. Windows was at least still a reasonably open platform.

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#48

I have an ipad through which I subscribed for Apple arcade. I don't use it / play at all on it and there was recently an email that price is going up. Sure, I'll just cancel subscription I said. I don't have my ipad on me, nor any other apple device (I don't use them anymore), nor windows. I have linux machines and android phone. Ok, so how do I cancel subscription? icloud login? no. subscription place of sorts? it w…

Apple always assume that you use their devices as primaries. It can be very annoying. When I wanted to get my wife a replacement MB, I ended up checking out as a guest as they insisted on sending my 2FA code to my iPad (which mostly just annoyed my toddler).

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#49

If I want my PWA to continue working, can I solve this by selecting "country" -> "UK" or "USA" ?

Also, will all the people worldwide that changed their country setting to "France" because it prevents their iPhone from slowing down[1] now also experience broken PWA's?

I guess so?

[1] Untrue, apparently, but nonetheless something some people did: https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/08/25/dont-set-your-old...

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#50

Why Safari can’t just launch from a Home Screen bookmark even if the user has chosen another “default browser”? PWAs are already a separate “island” of storage and share nothing with Safari App… Microsoft does it all the time with Edge on Windows.

> Why Safari can’t just launch from a Home Screen bookmark even if the user has chosen another “default browser”?

IIRC this is exactly what it does after the change. It now just launches the bookmark in a normal browser instead of a browser with the UI hidden.

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