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Re: Star Trek: Borg – Remastered

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Post by mikub »

mmh0000 wrote: post #27

Off-topic from the site, but, Borg related: If you're looking for a good story that provides a much better finale of Borg than Star Trek TNG/VOY/Picard ever provided, I highly recommend reading the Star Trek Destiny trilogy[1] Books to read: Gods of Night Mere Mortals Lost Souls [1] https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_Destiny

Yes, the Star Trek Destiny trilogy is really good, unfortunately for me that were some of the first Star Trek books I read, now all the others seem just not as good. Two days ago I started Federation by Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens, which was advertised to me as the better "StarTrek Generations", so far it reads pretty good.

Re: Star Trek: Borg – Remastered

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Post by suddenclarity »

thatguy27 wrote: post #35
tutfbhuf wrote: post #33

Slightly off topic, but not by much, question. Is it possible, with the recent AI advancements, to create 16:9 4K versions of TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY?

Having seen the AI up scaled versions of DS9, I would be surprised if that ends up being something I want to watch. I definitely don't see the point of changing the aspect ratio.

The point would be to get more screen estate and hence a more immersive experience. It's why The Shield was later released in widescreen despite originally being cropped for 4:3. Similarly there's a non-matted full-frame video from Jurassic Park and it's a whole different experience because you see so much more. AI would allow generative fill to create the environment and truly experience the vast space or see the environment even in close-ups. The counter argument would be that frame and composition matter.

Re: Star Trek: Borg – Remastered

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Post by arp242 »

paulgerhardt wrote: post #18
chungy wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lifting an entire game could in no way be considered fair use. That will never pass.

Discussed previously: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18673076

That is about the anti-circumvention clause of the DMCA, not fair use.

Re: Star Trek: Borg – Remastered

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Post by TeMPOraL »

fortyseven wrote: post #39
ndjdbdjdbev wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Season 3 ooses depression from every pore ...not sure it that make co.plete sense but yeah it was tough to watch

It felt like S3 forgot it was a comedy, and it tried too hard to be Real Trek. (Not to mention I kind of hate the crew now for what they did to Gordon in that time travel episode.)

Yeah, IMO S2 had the right balance of comedy-to-drama, being a little more light-hearted Real Trek. A lifeline in times where we had no proper Trek.

Re: Star Trek: Borg – Remastered

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Post by cuddlyogre »

Sakos wrote: post #31
JojoFatsani wrote: post #4

The Klingon one was awesome. This one has Q though. It is truly wild how much quality content the franchise was able to produce in the 90’s.

Starfleet Command and Armada are some of my favorite games even today.

Star Trek Bridge Commander is the pinnacle of not only Trek games but space games as a whole.

Re: Star Trek: Borg – Remastered

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Post by ViktorRay »

mmh0000 wrote: post #27

Off-topic from the site, but, Borg related: If you're looking for a good story that provides a much better finale of Borg than Star Trek TNG/VOY/Picard ever provided, I highly recommend reading the Star Trek Destiny trilogy[1] Books to read: Gods of Night Mere Mortals Lost Souls [1] https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_Destiny

Thanks for sharing! Looks super interesting. I’ll check it out.

Re: Star Trek: Borg – Remastered

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Post by hypercube33 »

bc_programming wrote: post #40
IntelMiner wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only TOS and TNG. They lost buckets of money allegedly doing it for TNG because nobody bought it. That put plans to do the same for DS9 and VOY on ice ENT I think was shot at 1080P at the very least and Lower Decks/Disco/Picard/etc are all probably 4K at least

My understanding is that TOS and TNG were shot on film and the 1080p versions aren't upscaled but are actually rescanned from the film. TNG supposedly had to basically be re-edited from the original footage after rescanning, but not sure about TOS. That method wouldn't be possible for DS9 or Voyager as both of those shows were shot digitally at 480p. I remember hearing that there's been some community work that upsca…

ExtremeTech has a few articles about upscaling DS9 and I think the work has been ongoing for a few years now. Some of the examples are really good but the techniques and technology is changing as the author is working and maybe I'm misremembering but I think the GPU time was measured in months to over a year for the whole series to be upscaled.

Re: Star Trek: Borg – Remastered

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Post by belthesar »

suddenclarity wrote: post #42
thatguy27 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having seen the AI up scaled versions of DS9, I would be surprised if that ends up being something I want to watch. I definitely don't see the point of changing the aspect ratio.

The point would be to get more screen estate and hence a more immersive experience. It's why The Shield was later released in widescreen despite originally being cropped for 4:3. Similarly there's a non-matted full-frame video from Jurassic Park and it's a whole different experience because you see so much more. AI would allow generative fill to create the environment and truly experience the vast space or see the en…

Something of note though is that things are shot for the aspect ratio they're shooting for. I'm guessing The Shield was intentionally shot with both Widescreen and 4:3 in mind if that happened, because it's pretty common to look through your viewfinder as a cinematographer, see that there's a boom in the shot, but it's outside of the matte and proceed with filming.

If we were to trust AI to do this, we'd need to build models specifically for this, with a way to give context to the rest of the set for the scene in question. From a technical perspective, I find the concept interesting, but from a practical sense, the amount of energy and time required to do this is almost a non-starter, and in doing this, we'd be going beyond the director's intent for the work at hand, which makes a transformative interpretation a degree or two removed from the intent of the director and production team.

Re: Star Trek: Borg – Remastered

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Post by Kluggy »

johnklos wrote: post #30

I like that people are using new tools to not only preserve but improve things from the past. One note, though, is that it'd be really nice if people stopped trying to save bandwidth by chopping audio bitrates so much. I don't even have the speakers turned up and it's obvious. It's a bit silly to care about HD quality video yet kill the audio with 128 kbps mp3 quality audio.

The audio is direct from the source. Are their tools to automatically improve the audio like the video?
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