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Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID
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Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID
#42Apple had to lock down iOS in 17.4 because enough people were being tricked into entering their passcode by a thief who in turn would steal the device, access their passwords and drain their bank accounts. So not sure that allowing pairing between different accounts and relying on a passcode for security is going to be that secure.
Honestly the real problem with security is the whole passcode -> Face ID -> passcode flow. It is relatively easy for someone to see the passcode that unlocks my phone, in one way or another. All of my banking apps are locked behind Face ID. But if you lock an app with Face ID, you can just override with the phones passcode. This is dumb. The app Face ID backup passcode should be separate from the device unlock passco…
The idea of FaceId is to minimize the use of a passcode so that wouldn’t be stolen in the first place.
In if you worry about that, then probably disable faceid for banking apps :-)
Apple also recently implemented optional stolen device protection in faceid settings just for this case: delay is introduced to be allowed to change the password and other related things.
Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Consider the setup process for the Apple TV. The TV shows a unique one-time-use QR code-like pattern that you can scan with the camera of an iOS device. Surely something like this would be sufficient for pairing a Vision Pro with a Mac. Also the security implications of encouraging people to add their personal Apple ID to devices they don’t own are, IMO, worse.
I'm being more cynical and assuming it's probably to do with AirPlay screen-mirroring encryption and how tying everything to the same Apple ID account placates Hollywood's technophobic licensing execs.
I think it’s a lot simpler than that. If they require both devices are logged in to the same account, they don’t need to deal with authorization. You would not believe how much development time this saves.
Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID
#44The fact that you cannot connect this to an HDMI device will be the death for this. Now they are hostages of Netflix, YouTube or any content owner. Had they have HDMI in, we would be able to just use a Roku stick to project 4k hdr Netflix content, or straight up project an 8k resolution Mac desktop.
> Now they are hostages of Netflix, YouTube or any content owner.
Apple owns Apple TV, Apple Music, and probably some secret service they're cooking specific to 3D cinema. I think they're fine.
Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID
#45This annoyance also extends to other features like using an iPhone as webcam, unlocking with Apple Watch, using Apple Music (you can’t login to a different account, only the system one)… MDM is so common in every tech company - I bet Apple’s own employee issued macs are managed, it is inexplicable how this is still a problem.
The real crime is Macbooks still ship with a 1080p camera when their ungodly huge phones ship with 48MP
The Macbook camera ships with the same chip as the iPhone 5S (2013). It has sufficient pixels for what it is meant for with most of the processing done in software. That last bit is key.
Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID
#46This annoyance also extends to other features like using an iPhone as webcam, unlocking with Apple Watch, using Apple Music (you can’t login to a different account, only the system one)… MDM is so common in every tech company - I bet Apple’s own employee issued macs are managed, it is inexplicable how this is still a problem.
I can’t use my wife’s iPad as a second display. Joined her on a travel trip. She went to the office, decided to try using her iPad as a second monitor via usb c… nope. Can’t do that. No idea why. It’s unlocked. It’s trusted. Why can’t it be used?
Surely there’s an app for that: “Duet display” exists more than a decade (sidecar basically sherlocked it). Also something called Astra or Luna (don’t remember exactly).
Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Employers could be free to restrict use of such devices via MDM policy if they wanted. Also, how many of us have purchased keyboards, mice, displays, headphones, etc with our own money that we happily use with employer owned computers because it’s safe to do so?
Some employers are just straight up control freaks. Sometimes it's misguided thoughts about security and third party keyboards from "unapproved vendors" (which is not entirely invalid to be concerned about, but unlikely to be an attack vector)...... But other times, they really do want you to use exactly what they provide you and nothing else. Things like "looking uniform and professional" or not wanting employees br…
> Some employers are just straight up control freaks.
Sometimes it makes sense, infuriating as it may be. My partner works for a bank and says that daily someone brings up an annoyance due to central IT's restrictions, but nobody wants to be a vector for exfiltration of customer data.
> Things like "looking uniform and professional"
Yeah OK, anybody like that is a control freak!
In extreme freaky control: Tom Siebel was like that at Siebel Systems: you can wear anything you want to work unless customers might see you, in which case you have to wear suit and tie (men) or equivalent. Doesn't sound so bad -- just salespeople, right? -- except that they would tour prospective customers through the development areas so...everybody had to wear suit and a tie.
Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID
#48This annoyance also extends to other features like using an iPhone as webcam, unlocking with Apple Watch, using Apple Music (you can’t login to a different account, only the system one)… MDM is so common in every tech company - I bet Apple’s own employee issued macs are managed, it is inexplicable how this is still a problem.
MDM does not by default prevent users from logging in with their own AppleID.
Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID
#49This is a very very long rant against a decision that seems entirely sensible to me. I specifically would not want any corporate-issued hardware happily chatting away with my personally-owned hardware, and I would encourage others to similarly keep their home and work life separate. If having an iPad (or a Vision Pro) would be useful for work, then their employer should issue one.
Sure, but if someone wants to use a Vision Pro for both work and non-work, having two of them is a bit steep.
Surely you could just log in and log out under the two names.
Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID
#50This is a very very long rant against a decision that seems entirely sensible to me. I specifically would not want any corporate-issued hardware happily chatting away with my personally-owned hardware, and I would encourage others to similarly keep their home and work life separate. If having an iPad (or a Vision Pro) would be useful for work, then their employer should issue one.
I'd go further and say that employers are also motivated to keep corporate hardware and personal hardware separate for security reasons. Allowing personal devices direct access to corporate ones is yet another attack surface. Separation of work and personal devices is a good policy for both employees and employer.