Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unusually for almost any car these days, it doesn't support CarPlay, so you will be required to use whatever "smart" functions are built-in.
If GM wants to drop CarPlay and force me to use their broken laggy garbage I just won't buy their car same goes for Tesla. Not paying a subscription fee for GPS.
The Chevy Equinox EV will get 319 miles of range and start at around $35,000
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Re: The Chevy Equinox EV will get 319 miles of range and start at around $35,000
#42I know someone with a 6 year old Tesla X that now has a range of around 120 miles. This is becoming a serious impediment for them. What happens to all the buyers of these vehicles when their range is halved before their life expectancy is up? Needing to pony up another $10-15k will probably be unaffordable for the average Joe.
Battery failures happen, but no 6 year old Tesla is at 60% battery degradation without a system failure.
Also, lithium ion batteries are almost entirely recyclable. Once we've mined enough and have a good recycling process in place, this will become more affordable for your average person.
Re: The Chevy Equinox EV will get 319 miles of range and start at around $35,000
#43I know someone with a 6 year old Tesla X that now has a range of around 120 miles. This is becoming a serious impediment for them. What happens to all the buyers of these vehicles when their range is halved before their life expectancy is up? Needing to pony up another $10-15k will probably be unaffordable for the average Joe.
Hrm, I believe Tesla's warranty is "8 years or 120,000 miles, whichever comes first, with minimum 70% retention of Battery capacity over the warranty period.", so your friend should look into getting a new Tesla! Also, and I'd love if someone could dig up some data on this, the X and S used an older battery type that has since been replaced by a new chemistry and assembly which degrades quite a lot less than the olde…
Re: The Chevy Equinox EV will get 319 miles of range and start at around $35,000
#44I know someone with a 6 year old Tesla X that now has a range of around 120 miles. This is becoming a serious impediment for them. What happens to all the buyers of these vehicles when their range is halved before their life expectancy is up? Needing to pony up another $10-15k will probably be unaffordable for the average Joe.
How many miles do they have on it? Mileage that short after only 6 years should be covered by warranty. That's not degradation, that's a battery failure.
Re: The Chevy Equinox EV will get 319 miles of range and start at around $35,000
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
If regulation is needed to force the existence of electric cars around the 20k mark, that means nobody wants to buy them now
If energy just cost what it actually cost (no fossil fuel subsidies) the rest would follow. The market distortion from gas subsidies has caused this mess, we didn't get to everyone driving a 5000 pound vehicle due to the free market. We got here because of backwards laws and automaker's exploitation of said laws. Fuel or electricity should cost what it costs. Vehicles need to be taxed according to their externalities…
Re: The Chevy Equinox EV will get 319 miles of range and start at around $35,000
#46I know someone with a 6 year old Tesla X that now has a range of around 120 miles. This is becoming a serious impediment for them. What happens to all the buyers of these vehicles when their range is halved before their life expectancy is up? Needing to pony up another $10-15k will probably be unaffordable for the average Joe.
I don't think any average joe has a tesla.
Re: The Chevy Equinox EV will get 319 miles of range and start at around $35,000
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
If regulation is needed to force the existence of electric cars around the 20k mark, that means nobody wants to buy them now
If energy just cost what it actually cost (no fossil fuel subsidies) the rest would follow. The market distortion from gas subsidies has caused this mess, we didn't get to everyone driving a 5000 pound vehicle due to the free market. We got here because of backwards laws and automaker's exploitation of said laws. Fuel or electricity should cost what it costs. Vehicles need to be taxed according to their externalities…
Re: The Chevy Equinox EV will get 319 miles of range and start at around $35,000
#48If any automaker can make a car that meets these criteria, I will buy one immediately: * it is available, new, at my local dealer, for * it will enable me to travel to a destination 1.5 hr away, and return, without stopping to charge * it has a reliable fast-charging network * doesn't stream video of me to someone else's computer I don't really think I'm asking for much.
Or you could get a car delivered to your driveway for you like the rest of us urchins. But maybe that's just a bridge too far.
Re: The Chevy Equinox EV will get 319 miles of range and start at around $35,000
#49There's no way in hell they're making money at that price. They're probably not even breaking even. Even the higher trims are going to have extremely thin margins, if they're making money at all. Seeing as it's an $8K jump in price from the base model to the second level trim, I imagine dealers are going to make it very difficult to buy a base model.
Re: The Chevy Equinox EV will get 319 miles of range and start at around $35,000
#50If any automaker can make a car that meets these criteria, I will buy one immediately: * it is available, new, at my local dealer, for * it will enable me to travel to a destination 1.5 hr away, and return, without stopping to charge * it has a reliable fast-charging network * doesn't stream video of me to someone else's computer I don't really think I'm asking for much.
Which one of those does this not meet? The available inventory?
Edit: He stealth-edited "doesn't stream video of me to someone else's computer" into the list, so I think the point of the comment is just, "I want an EV that's as good as a Tesla but isn't a Tesla."