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Canadian government banning Flipper Zero to combat auto theft

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Re: Canadian government banning Flipper Zero to combat auto theft

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Wait, so I can use my Flipper as a backup key for my car (mid 2010s Mazda)?

I thought the rolling code thing prevented this. If anyone has a doc on how to use the Flipper for a car, please send it! I promise it's for legit use. I bought it originally to dupe the NFC key fob for my apartment and the RF fob for the garage door.

Re: Canadian government banning Flipper Zero to combat auto theft

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The Flipper Zero is a general-purpose tool and STEM educational device. By banning the device, a country would be setting back their workforce of engineers and scientists a bit. How can you use a Flipper Zero to steal a car? Flipper Zero can't crack hard encryption. Is the real problem that cars were made with security that they already knew was negligently weak at the time? If so, is a recall of those cars more appr…

It’s not the law yet. There must be a way to raise this.

Re: Canadian government banning Flipper Zero to combat auto theft

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post #10

The Flipper Zero is a general-purpose tool and STEM educational device. By banning the device, a country would be setting back their workforce of engineers and scientists a bit. How can you use a Flipper Zero to steal a car? Flipper Zero can't crack hard encryption. Is the real problem that cars were made with security that they already knew was negligently weak at the time? If so, is a recall of those cars more appr…

> By banning the device, a country would be setting back their workforce of engineers and scientists a bit. You're pulling a "Think of the children" here. Rest of your comment is fine, but this first statement doesn't hold water. Any incredibly small number of engineers and scientists would ever use this device. A Raspberry PI, Ardiuno, or other general purpose micro controllers and small form computing devices sure,…

RF devices are already ubiquitous, the technology and applications keep growing, and there's emerging opportunities for innovative applications.

FWIW, I "funded" the Kickstarter for Flipper Zero because my startup was doing something a little innovative with various kinds of RF tags, to help solve a significant societal problem. (Which, besides what we could've contributed to a country in monetary value of our company, the application domain had significant implications for national economies, as well as for public safety. All things that lawmakers care about, in addition to reducing auto thefts.) We had Android diagnostic software, plus bespoke iOS apps with NFC that I wrote, but a Flipper Zero would've helped me work better and faster at some things.

Re: Canadian government banning Flipper Zero to combat auto theft

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A CBC article (edited since then) also mentioned the Raspberry Pi. Hopefully it's just bad journalism.

Great, that's just what we need. Can we criminalize all x86-64 computers after this? Surely one can run an SDR on linux using such a nefarious device?
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