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LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by azalemeth »

atahanacar wrote: post #32
Cloudef wrote: post #25

Installed lineageos on Mi A1 few months ago as some apps stopped offering android 9 support, this is one of the few phones that do not report unlocked bootloader to safety net so it works with banking apps too. For my surprise, the lineageos is much snappier and battery life is longer, so it's win-win. Be warned though, Google's own Android backup system is completely useless, so make sure you export your important d…

I don't understand why banking apps don't work with root/ROMs. In my country, if your phone is rooted or you have a custom ROM installed, banking apps just warn you about it, saying "Your phone is rooted, if you don't know what it means your safety could be compromised", allowing you to disable further warnings.

Which country is that, if you don't mind me asking? My experiences have been either a) cancelling my account with no notice due to a policy change (Revolut); b) no cares whatsoever (Monzo, a UK digital bank, TSB, a UK traditional bank, or Danske Bank, a Danish traditional bank) or c) a national identity system (MITiD, a Danish single sign on) blacklisting my account instantly and requiring a single, fragile, loseable, unbackupable hardware dongle after much grilling from a local official.

I'm using lineage on a OnePlus 5. It's old but works perfectly!

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by deng »

pedroaraujo wrote: post #34
duffpkg wrote: post #4

I am pretty hard on phones. Been using lineage for years now on google pixel unlocked phones. 5a and now 6a. I have found both to have some real durability problems. Are there any good alternatives that are unlocked to use with lineage?

It might be worth to switch to GrapheneOS if you have Pixel phones: https://grapheneos.org/ It is a more serious project than LineageOS in the sense that they take security very seriously and they take their development more professionally too. There are no disadvantages to using GrapheneOS compared to LineageOS. You can see a comparison here: https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm

Note that this comparison is not entirely correct. For instance, LineageOS supports network-based location with UnifiedNlp. Android Auto works fine if you install GApps.

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by deng »

colordrops wrote: post #31
canistel wrote: post #16

I want to, but I cannot. Most of the banking or payment applications baulk at getting a whiff of Lineage. You are then forced to play a cat and mouse game which is quite stressful. It is sad that ROM customisation (and rooting) is stigmatised in the Android world.

I haven't found any apps that aren't fooled by Magisk+Zygisk, and I've got hundreds installed, including dozens of banking and finance apps. The thing that really screws me up are ad blockers. The app doesn't work, and I assume it's detecting the unlocked phone, but then realize my ad blocker is preventing certain network calls.

True, but of course Magisk is not part of LineageOS and is yet another part of the system you need to take care of (for instance, you usually need to remember to uninstall/re-install it before/after every OTA update).

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by Erratic6576 »

riedel wrote: post #37

Lineage is as much standard android experience as you can get after market without any gaming/styling mods. If google was series about AOSP and sustainability they should embrace lineage and at least give a non-rooted lineage with a relocked bootloader on pixel phones a safety-net pass. Lineage has been very careful to not piss off google by not including microg or alternative webview signatures or means to circumven…

it’s disappointing that people have to go such lengths in order to have a mobile device that is not conspiring against their wallet or ballot

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by wanderingmind »

Happy user of LineageOS. Unfortunately I need a few apps that look for Play Store like Whatsapp, so I'm using LineageOS+ MicroG. Have been using an old Moto G7 for years and it has still been faster than most Samsung phones. Thinking of upgrading but I'm gonna wait until the phone physically breaks down which might still be a few years away.

If you plan on installing Lineage, I strongly recommend buying Motorola phones that can be rooted very easily.

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by atahanacar »

azalemeth wrote: post #41
atahanacar wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand why banking apps don't work with root/ROMs. In my country, if your phone is rooted or you have a custom ROM installed, banking apps just warn you about it, saying "Your phone is rooted, if you don't know what it means your safety could be compromised", allowing you to disable further warnings.

Which country is that, if you don't mind me asking? My experiences have been either a) cancelling my account with no notice due to a policy change (Revolut); b) no cares whatsoever (Monzo, a UK digital bank, TSB, a UK traditional bank, or Danske Bank, a Danish traditional bank) or c) a national identity system (MITiD, a Danish single sign on) blacklisting my account instantly and requiring a single, fragile, loseable…

Turkey. I've tried 4 different banks and so far all of them had a similar warning but worked completely fine.

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by c0l0 »

brnt wrote: post #24
charcircuit wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LineageOS prioritizes device compatibility and maintainability over security. I do not think this is a good tradeoff to make as normal people don't care about such security until it is too late.

I think it's wild how universal the idea that a phone is a place for secrets had become. A device you are most likely to lose, break or get stolen by virtue of being outside of your home for much of the day.

... and where users are going to use it to do EVERYTHING in their daily digital lives, from doing financial transactions and accessing work email, to playing data-exfiltrating "free" games and surfing porn. And where the only actually viable location for backing up the data stored on it is some Big Tech conglomerate's cloud.

I agree it's pretty crazy.

Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices

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Post by drewzero1 »

vincnetas wrote: post #39
dghlsakjg wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They ship the iPhone SE. That’s about as small as you can reasonably expect any smartphone to be.

Oh how things changed when iPhone 5 (4'') was considered normal phone and anything from 5'' up was a phablet. Now you have basic phones starting from 6''.

I had an iPhone 4 and then a 5c (same size as the 5). The 4 was usually fine, sometimes a bit cramped, but the 5c really hit the sweet spot for screen size and one-handed usability. Someday I hope someone makes a decent modern phone just like the 5c.
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