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Yeah, it's an awesome idea to waste few hundred megabytes of RAM to run your app. This browser-in-a-box cancer needs to die a painful death.
Until there's a viable solution for desktop native GUI, this trend will continue.
Mozilla's abandoned web engine 'Servo' project is getting a reboot
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Re: Mozilla's abandoned web engine 'Servo' project is getting a reboot
#42I would like to see Positron rebooted. Positron is to Firefox what electron is to chromium. https://mykzilla.org/2017/03/08/positron-discontinued/
Yeah, it's an awesome idea to waste few hundred megabytes of RAM to run your app. This browser-in-a-box cancer needs to die a painful death.
Re: Mozilla's abandoned web engine 'Servo' project is getting a reboot
#43Re: Mozilla's abandoned web engine 'Servo' project is getting a reboot
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Yeah, it's an awesome idea to waste few hundred megabytes of RAM to run your app. This browser-in-a-box cancer needs to die a painful death.
Until there's a viable solution for desktop native GUI, this trend will continue.
Hell even Wine is more efficient an approach for cross-platform distribution.
Re: Mozilla's abandoned web engine 'Servo' project is getting a reboot
#45I would like to see Positron rebooted. Positron is to Firefox what electron is to chromium. https://mykzilla.org/2017/03/08/positron-discontinued/
This is being worked on https://github.com/tauri-apps/tauri/issues/579
It exists for Android, but not desktop (judging by a number of dead links, it looks like it used to exist for desktop).
(or s/Gecko/Servo/ if desired)
Re: Mozilla's abandoned web engine 'Servo' project is getting a reboot
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Servo was always intended as a way to proof certain technologies without the restrictions of a full browser engine like Gecko, so they could integrate them into Firefox/Gecko later if they panned out. They did and things got integrated into Firefox with https://wiki.mozilla.org/Quantum . Then Mozilla had a sustainability crisis and - imho unwisely - decided that one of the things that they could do without in the fut…
> Then Mozilla had a sustainability crisis and One way to word it... CEO had a 400% pay increase since 2018 All while Firefox browser market share dropped from 11.87% to 7.58% during the same period. World would be a better place without the Mozilla Foundation
Re: Mozilla's abandoned web engine 'Servo' project is getting a reboot
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#48Re: Mozilla's abandoned web engine 'Servo' project is getting a reboot
#49I would like to see Positron rebooted. Positron is to Firefox what electron is to chromium. https://mykzilla.org/2017/03/08/positron-discontinued/
Thunderbird is developed on top of Firefox.
You also kinda have to fork Firefox to do this. It would be good to be able to #include and build the UI from there. XULRunner seemed nice too.
Using Gecko when you are not Firefox is such a pain that
- all alternative browsers that are not forks of Firefox that were based on Gecko have abandoned: they stopped being maintained, or switched to WebKit or Blink, which is a shame.
- all apps based on XUL / Gecko, like Songbird, have mostly disappeared.
It needs to be easier.
Gecko seems like a drag for Thunderbird. It shouldn't. For this, it needs to be a proper toolkit, with stability guarantees, and proper support to third party apps, and easily reusable. That's not the focus for Firefox devs though.
[1] https://fosdem.org/2024/schedule/event/fosdem-2024-2728-thun...
Re: Mozilla's abandoned web engine 'Servo' project is getting a reboot
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Servo was always intended as a way to proof certain technologies without the restrictions of a full browser engine like Gecko, so they could integrate them into Firefox/Gecko later if they panned out. They did and things got integrated into Firefox with https://wiki.mozilla.org/Quantum . Then Mozilla had a sustainability crisis and - imho unwisely - decided that one of the things that they could do without in the fut…
> Then Mozilla had a sustainability crisis and One way to word it... CEO had a 400% pay increase since 2018 All while Firefox browser market share dropped from 11.87% to 7.58% during the same period. World would be a better place without the Mozilla Foundation
However, I do not think it would be better without Mozilla foundation. They have more software as well, such as Thunderbird.